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Re: 6 Nations
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:54 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
No Sexton.
Who does that leave? Paddy Jackson? That's a huge, huge blow for Ireland.
Re: 6 Nations
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:03 pm
by Adder
Johnny Sexton and Peter O'Mahony will both miss Ireland's Six Nations opener against Scotland on Saturday.
Sexton's calf injury picked up on Leinster duty against Castres on 20 January has not healed fully healed.
Munster flanker O'Mahony is out because of a hamstring problem while Ulster wing Andrew Trimble is also a doubt because of a groin tightness.
"It's better to leave him [Sexton] out this weekend," said Ireland's forwards coach Simon Easterby.
"We don't want to compromise his calf any further."
With Sexton, 31, out of the Murrayfield contest, Ulster's Paddy Jackson looks certain to start in the fly-half jersey against the Scots.
Despite O'Mahony's absence, Ireland coach Joe Schmidt will still have strong back row options with fit-again Sean O'Brien, CJ Stander and Josh van der Flier all available to partner number eight Jamie Heaslip.
Re: 6 Nations
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:03 pm
by Adder
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:No Sexton.
Who does that leave? Paddy Jackson? That's a huge, huge blow for Ireland.
Madigan?
Re: 6 Nations
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:03 pm
by Big D
I would think it is Jackson.
Sexton gets injured plenty so they'll be used to this.
Re: 6 Nations
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:05 pm
by SerjeantWildgoose
Madigan won't be available until next weekend. Paddy Jackson is doing well this season, despite Ulster's woes. He played against SA and Australia, so he's a couple of big scalps under his belt. We'll probably end up covering him with Rory Scannell from the bench, though I'm sure you'll all be delighted to hear that Ian Keatley's name is also in the mix.
We still have the batin' av yez, mind.
Re: 6 Nations
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:15 pm
by OptimisticJock
Gutted I won't see this until Sunday night. Need to stay off my phone all weekend. Think this will be a cracking game.
Re: 6 Nations
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:17 pm
by Adder
Connor Murray and the Pack are still there. Ireland are still terrifying IMO and I still can't see us winning. We are not Worthy etc.
Re: 6 Nations
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:53 pm
by ARM
Nicely done Adder.
Way too much positivity kicking about in the press. We're just happy to be on the same pitch as them and hopefully we'll learn a thing or two for our 'cup final' against the Italians.
Re: 6 Nations
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:49 pm
by General Zod
That's a good point. It's important to finish 5th so the pressure from the Georgians/ Romanians is off us and on Italy.
Re: 6 Nations
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:04 pm
by Big D
ARM wrote:Nicely done Adder.
Way too much positivity kicking about in the press. We're just happy to be on the same pitch as them and hopefully we'll learn a thing or two for our 'cup final' against the Italians.
Yup important that we try and eek out a win v a resurgent Italy under O'Shea.
Re: 6 Nations
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 6:34 pm
by SerjeantWildgoose
Ah hey now! Don't be after pulling that sort of ballix. Yousn's are favourites so stop trying to pretend otherwise.
Re: RE: Re: 6 Nations
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:40 pm
by Adder
SerjeantWildgoose wrote:Ah hey now! Don't be after pulling that sort of ballix. Yousn's are favourites so stop trying to pretend otherwise.
Guys, you are world beatters. You beat the curent World champion, that practically makes you a World cup winner.
At least you have the decency to play minors such as ourselves on a regular basis. Trying to develop the game to one day be able to play a decent opposition I guess . Sorry we are such slow learners.
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Re: 6 Nations
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:56 pm
by QwentyJ
Collective Scottish cringe. It's a joy to watch and brings a tear to my eye, so it does.
Re: RE: Re: 6 Nations
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:28 pm
by Big D
QwentyJ wrote:Collective Scottish cringe. It's a joy to watch and brings a tear to my eye, so it does.
It's playing nice to the mockers gods in this case.
Re: 6 Nations
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:42 pm
by Donny osmond
Brilliant.
This weekend is my fave annual weekend, where I genuinely get to support a winning team no matter what happens. I'm pretty much delighted with whoever scores in a Scotland - Ireland match, mostly because it annoys the feck out of all my rellies on both sides.
There'll be Glayva drunk aplenty, good luck everyone.
Re: 6 Nations
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:54 pm
by OptimisticJock
Glayva? You've spent too much time chaffing with rowan you've turned into a fud.
Re: RE: Re: 6 Nations
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:02 am
by Adder
Donny osmond wrote:Brilliant.
This weekend is my fave annual weekend, where I genuinely get to support a winning team no matter what happens. I'm pretty much delighted with whoever scores in a Scotland - Ireland match, mostly because it annoys the feck out of all my rellies on both sides.
There'll be Glayva drunk aplenty, good luck everyone.
Ye mixed bastard!
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Re: 6 Nations
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:47 am
by SerjeantWildgoose
Glayva and Irn Bru - don't knock it til ye've tried it.
Re: 6 Nations
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:54 pm
by OptimisticJock
I'll make sure I down one tonight
Re: 6 Nations
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:16 pm
by Stones of granite
SerjeantWildgoose wrote:Glayva and Irn Bru - don't knock it til ye've tried it.
have a slab of tablet as well. That's not quite sweet enough.
Re: 6 Nations
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:22 pm
by Adder
Stats since the beginning of the 6 nations
Points Scored
England 2350
France 2084
Ireland 2080
Wales 1984
Scotland 1378
Italy 1239
Points conceeded
England 1327
Ireland 1536
France 1534
Wales 1811
Scotland 2115
Italy 2792
Tries
England 245
Ireland 211
France 200
Wales 183
Italy 105
Scotland 102
Titles
England 5
France 5
Wales 4
Ireland 3
Scotland
Italy
Grand Slam
Wales 3
France 3
England 2
Ireland 1
Scotland
Italy
Wooden Spoon
Italy 11
Scotland 4
Wales 1
France 1
England
Ireland
Edit: Modified for easier reading
Try Scoring is really poor. Itwould be interesting from a Scottish perspective to see these stats before and and after 2011.
Re: 6 Nations
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:31 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
Adder wrote:Stats since the beginning of the 6 nations
Points Scored
England 2350
Ireland 2080
Wales 1984
Scotland 1378
France 2084
Italy 1239
Points conceeded
England 1327
Ireland 1536
Wales 1811
Scotland 2115
France 1534
Italy 2792
Tries
England 245
Ireland 211
Wales 183
Scotland 102
France 200
Italy 105
Titles
England 5
Ireland 3
Wales 4
Scotland
France 5
Italy
Grand Slam
England 2
Ireland 1
Wales 3
Scotland
France 3
Italy
Wooden Spoon
England
Ireland
Wales 1
Scotland 4
France 1
Italy 11
Try Scoring is really poor. Itwould be interesting to see statistics from a Scottish perspective to see these stats before and and after 2011.
As someone who work with data on a daily basis I refuse to read that cause of the formatting. Why are the teams ordered like that?
Re: 6 Nations
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:38 pm
by Adder
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Adder wrote:Stats since the beginning of the 6 nations
Points Scored
England 2350
Ireland 2080
Wales 1984
Scotland 1378
France 2084
Italy 1239
Points conceeded
England 1327
Ireland 1536
Wales 1811
Scotland 2115
France 1534
Italy 2792
Tries
England 245
Ireland 211
Wales 183
Scotland 102
France 200
Italy 105
Titles
England 5
Ireland 3
Wales 4
Scotland
France 5
Italy
Grand Slam
England 2
Ireland 1
Wales 3
Scotland
France 3
Italy
Wooden Spoon
England
Ireland
Wales 1
Scotland 4
France 1
Italy 11
Try Scoring is really poor. Itwould be interesting to see statistics from a Scottish perspective to see these stats before and and after 2011.
As someone who work with data on a daily basis I refuse to read that cause of the formatting. Why are the teams ordered like that?
You will find the table here, in French
http://www.lerugbynistere.fr/news/tourn ... 171746.php
Re: 6 Nations
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:23 pm
by Mikey Brown
That's horrible reading alright. I would certainly be hoping the stats from the last 5 years are better than that too.
Re: 6 Nations
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:44 pm
by Big D
We very rarely won one of our first 2 6n games. Would be good to start with a win.