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Re: Team for Wales

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:33 pm
by Mellsblue
Puja wrote:
Scrumhead wrote:
Puja wrote:I know I was the first one to say that we should target Patchell, but I was thinking on the pitch, in play, rather than this classless chirping. It's reminiscent of the times that Gatland's had a chirp about the likes of Robshaw or Hartley pre-game, only for them then to go on to deliver great performances. Does this kind of thing ever work?

Puja
I can’t say I’m a huge fan of needlessly riling the opposition ... it is, as you say, ‘classless’. However, I don’t actually think Eddie’s said anything that contentious.

Patchell is Wales third choice behind Biggar and Priestland and Eddie is pretty much saying what we all thought when he suggested that we will look to target him due to his inexperience in a game of this magnitude.
It just didn't need to be done as a public conversation. We keep schtum and send CGS on a seek-and-destroy mission early on and he's distracted and bruised from unexpected pressure. Talking about how we're going to target him and how we think he's weak gives him the huild up to psych himself up to prove those arrogant English wrong.

It just seems like a poor move - the best disruption tactics are a surprise, not back page headlines in Wales.

Puja
Seems the sort of player who would like an oppo player charging out the line to try and monster him. Many of my favourite rugby moments were taking big hits and then showing the foaming at the mouth mongoloid who tackled you exactly how far down the pitch you now were/where the try was scored after sending a runner through the hole he left.

I think Jones rates him but wants to play on his inexperience and what will be very understandable nerves. There's also the very real possibility that it's not a tactic in the slightest and old Edward is playing his usual mind games.

Re: Team for Wales

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:34 pm
by Scrumhead
kk67 wrote:
Scrumhead wrote:
Puja wrote:I know I was the first one to say that we should target Patchell, but I was thinking on the pitch, in play, rather than this classless chirping. It's reminiscent of the times that Gatland's had a chirp about the likes of Robshaw or Hartley pre-game, only for them then to go on to deliver great performances. Does this kind of thing ever work?

Puja
I can’t say I’m a huge fan of needlessly riling the opposition ... it is, as you say, ‘classless’. However, I don’t actually think Eddie’s said anything that contentious.

Patchell is Wales third choice behind Biggar and Priestland and Eddie is pretty much saying what we all thought when he suggested that we will look to target him due to his inexperience in a game of this magnitude.
Meh,...feck off.
Humour me ... what is so offensive?

It’s not like he brought Jonny Sexton’s parents into it.

Re: Team for Wales

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:35 pm
by Scrumhead
Mellsblue wrote:
Puja wrote:
Scrumhead wrote:
I can’t say I’m a huge fan of needlessly riling the opposition ... it is, as you say, ‘classless’. However, I don’t actually think Eddie’s said anything that contentious.

Patchell is Wales third choice behind Biggar and Priestland and Eddie is pretty much saying what we all thought when he suggested that we will look to target him due to his inexperience in a game of this magnitude.
It just didn't need to be done as a public conversation. We keep schtum and send CGS on a seek-and-destroy mission early on and he's distracted and bruised from unexpected pressure. Talking about how we're going to target him and how we think he's weak gives him the huild up to psych himself up to prove those arrogant English wrong.

It just seems like a poor move - the best disruption tactics are a surprise, not back page headlines in Wales.

Puja
Seems the sort of player who would like an oppo player charging out the line to try and monster him. Many of my favourite rugby moments were taking big hits and then showing the foaming at the mouth mongoloid who tackled you exactly how far down the pitch you now were/where the try was scored after sending a runner through the hole he left.

I think Jones rates him but wants to play on his inexperience and what will be very understandable nerves. There's also the very real possibility that it's not a tactic in the slightest and old Edward is playing his usual mind games.
Agreed Mells

Re: Team for Wales

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:37 pm
by Banquo
Scrumhead wrote:
kk67 wrote:
Scrumhead wrote:
I can’t say I’m a huge fan of needlessly riling the opposition ... it is, as you say, ‘classless’. However, I don’t actually think Eddie’s said anything that contentious.

Patchell is Wales third choice behind Biggar and Priestland and Eddie is pretty much saying what we all thought when he suggested that we will look to target him due to his inexperience in a game of this magnitude.
Meh,...feck off.
Humour me ... what is so offensive?

It’s not like he brought Jonny Sexton’s parents into it.
I think you are being needlessly riled. Or Kk is on the lash earlier than normal

Re: Team for Wales

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:41 pm
by Banquo
Mellsblue wrote:
Puja wrote:
Scrumhead wrote:
I can’t say I’m a huge fan of needlessly riling the opposition ... it is, as you say, ‘classless’. However, I don’t actually think Eddie’s said anything that contentious.

Patchell is Wales third choice behind Biggar and Priestland and Eddie is pretty much saying what we all thought when he suggested that we will look to target him due to his inexperience in a game of this magnitude.
It just didn't need to be done as a public conversation. We keep schtum and send CGS on a seek-and-destroy mission early on and he's distracted and bruised from unexpected pressure. Talking about how we're going to target him and how we think he's weak gives him the huild up to psych himself up to prove those arrogant English wrong.

It just seems like a poor move - the best disruption tactics are a surprise, not back page headlines in Wales.

Puja
Seems the sort of player who would like an oppo player charging out the line to try and monster him. Many of my favourite rugby moments were taking big hits and then showing the foaming at the mouth mongoloid who tackled you exactly how far down the pitch you now were/where the try was scored after sending a runner through the hole he left.

I think Jones rates him but wants to play on his inexperience and what will be very understandable nerves. There's also the very real possibility that it's not a tactic in the slightest and old Edward is playing his usual mind games.
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Re: Team for Wales

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:42 pm
by kk67
Apologies. I'm frequently happy with unexpected selections.

Re: Team for Wales

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:48 pm
by Timbo
Puja wrote:
Scrumhead wrote:
Puja wrote:I know I was the first one to say that we should target Patchell, but I was thinking on the pitch, in play, rather than this classless chirping. It's reminiscent of the times that Gatland's had a chirp about the likes of Robshaw or Hartley pre-game, only for them then to go on to deliver great performances. Does this kind of thing ever work?

Puja
I can’t say I’m a huge fan of needlessly riling the opposition ... it is, as you say, ‘classless’. However, I don’t actually think Eddie’s said anything that contentious.

Patchell is Wales third choice behind Biggar and Priestland and Eddie is pretty much saying what we all thought when he suggested that we will look to target him due to his inexperience in a game of this magnitude.
It just didn't need to be done as a public conversation. We keep schtum and send CGS on a seek-and-destroy mission early on and he's distracted and bruised from unexpected pressure. Talking about how we're going to target him and how we think he's weak gives him the huild up to psych himself up to prove those arrogant English wrong.

It just seems like a poor move - the best disruption tactics are a surprise, not back page headlines in Wales.

Puja
I dont think Eddie is interested in targeting Patchell physically, at least no more than any other opposition flyhalf. I think he just wants all the focus and build up to be about him and to get him out of his normal ‘head space’.

And, well, classless or not, here we all are discussing Patchell.

Re: Team for Wales

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:52 pm
by Numbers
Timbo wrote:
Puja wrote:
Scrumhead wrote:
I can’t say I’m a huge fan of needlessly riling the opposition ... it is, as you say, ‘classless’. However, I don’t actually think Eddie’s said anything that contentious.

Patchell is Wales third choice behind Biggar and Priestland and Eddie is pretty much saying what we all thought when he suggested that we will look to target him due to his inexperience in a game of this magnitude.
It just didn't need to be done as a public conversation. We keep schtum and send CGS on a seek-and-destroy mission early on and he's distracted and bruised from unexpected pressure. Talking about how we're going to target him and how we think he's weak gives him the huild up to psych himself up to prove those arrogant English wrong.

It just seems like a poor move - the best disruption tactics are a surprise, not back page headlines in Wales.

Puja
I dont think Eddie is interested in targettinh Patchell physically, at least no more than any other opposition flyhalf. I think he just wants all the focus and build up to be about him and to get him out of his normal ‘head space’.

And, well, classless or not, here we all are discussing Patchell.
I have no issue with it, it's no different to Gatland commenting upon players scrummaging techniques really is it? I suppose we'll see if Patch has the big game temperament (I hope so as Anscombe doesn't convince at International level).

Re: Team for Wales

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:55 pm
by Banquo
Timbo wrote:
Puja wrote:
Scrumhead wrote:
I can’t say I’m a huge fan of needlessly riling the opposition ... it is, as you say, ‘classless’. However, I don’t actually think Eddie’s said anything that contentious.

Patchell is Wales third choice behind Biggar and Priestland and Eddie is pretty much saying what we all thought when he suggested that we will look to target him due to his inexperience in a game of this magnitude.
It just didn't need to be done as a public conversation. We keep schtum and send CGS on a seek-and-destroy mission early on and he's distracted and bruised from unexpected pressure. Talking about how we're going to target him and how we think he's weak gives him the huild up to psych himself up to prove those arrogant English wrong.

It just seems like a poor move - the best disruption tactics are a surprise, not back page headlines in Wales.

Puja
I dont think Eddie is interested in targeting Patchell physically, at least no more than any other opposition flyhalf. I think he just wants all the focus and build up to be about him and to get him out of his normal ‘head space’.

And, well, classless or not, here we all are discussing Patchell.
Exactly, he always does something to distract from the real issues, and deflect any pressure on players to himself.

Re: Team for Wales

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:02 pm
by Mellsblue
Banquo wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:
Puja wrote:
It just didn't need to be done as a public conversation. We keep schtum and send CGS on a seek-and-destroy mission early on and he's distracted and bruised from unexpected pressure. Talking about how we're going to target him and how we think he's weak gives him the huild up to psych himself up to prove those arrogant English wrong.

It just seems like a poor move - the best disruption tactics are a surprise, not back page headlines in Wales.

Puja
Seems the sort of player who would like an oppo player charging out the line to try and monster him. Many of my favourite rugby moments were taking big hits and then showing the foaming at the mouth mongoloid who tackled you exactly how far down the pitch you now were/where the try was scored after sending a runner through the hole he left.

I think Jones rates him but wants to play on his inexperience and what will be very understandable nerves. There's also the very real possibility that it's not a tactic in the slightest and old Edward is playing his usual mind games.
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Where did you find that photo?!?!? In my defence, I did tell the club president not to let Versace design our kit.

Re: Team for Wales

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:03 pm
by Banquo
Mellsblue wrote:
Banquo wrote:
Mellsblue wrote: Seems the sort of player who would like an oppo player charging out the line to try and monster him. Many of my favourite rugby moments were taking big hits and then showing the foaming at the mouth mongoloid who tackled you exactly how far down the pitch you now were/where the try was scored after sending a runner through the hole he left.

I think Jones rates him but wants to play on his inexperience and what will be very understandable nerves. There's also the very real possibility that it's not a tactic in the slightest and old Edward is playing his usual mind games.
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Where did you find that photo?!?!? In my defence, I did tell the club president not to let Versace design our kit.
Ole!

Re: Team for Wales

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:12 pm
by Banquo
Apparently 1/2p is ill and missed the captain's run....

Re: Team for Wales

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:36 pm
by normanski
Banquo wrote:Apparently 1/2p is ill and missed the captain's run....
All designed to lull you into a false sense of security!

Re: Team for Wales

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:39 pm
by Banquo
normanski wrote:
Banquo wrote:Apparently 1/2p is ill and missed the captain's run....
All designed to lull you into a false sense of security!
a cunning plan...

Re: Team for Wales

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:40 pm
by Timbo
Patchell to fullback then :-/

Just seen the weather forecast! Those Scarlett’s boys might want to pack away the offloads this weekend.

Re: Team for Wales

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:42 pm
by Banquo
Timbo wrote:Patchell to fullback then :-/

Just seen the weather forecast! Those Scarlett’s boys might want to pack away the offloads this weekend.
Light rain and a touch of a breeze? Shame they didn't play at a sensible time before the rain is due to start.

Re: Team for Wales

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:46 pm
by Timbo
Rain all afternoon.

Re: Team for Wales

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:49 pm
by Banquo
Timbo wrote:Rain all afternoon.
not heavy, hopefully.

Re: Team for Wales

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:55 pm
by Which Tyler
Banquo wrote:
Timbo wrote:Rain all afternoon.
not heavy, hopefully.
I'm sure I remember seeing Patchell and Scarlets Wales play in the rain before at some stage this season....

Re: Team for Wales

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:34 pm
by Puja
Which Tyler wrote:
Banquo wrote:
Timbo wrote:Rain all afternoon.
not heavy, hopefully.
I'm sure I remember seeing Patchell and Scarlets Wales play in the rain before at some stage this season....
I don't believe they have rain in Wales.

Puja

Re: Team for Wales

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:13 am
by Banquo
Which Tyler wrote:
Banquo wrote:
Timbo wrote:Rain all afternoon.
not heavy, hopefully.
I'm sure I remember seeing Patchell and Scarlets Wales play in the rain before at some stage this season....
No shit :D I just prefer dry conditions, rugby is generally better as a spectator.

Re: Team for Wales

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:44 am
by Stom
Banquo wrote:
Which Tyler wrote:
Banquo wrote: not heavy, hopefully.
I'm sure I remember seeing Patchell and Scarlets Wales play in the rain before at some stage this season....
No shit :D I just prefer dry conditions, rugby is generally better as a spectator.
I still say the best game of rugby I've seen live was bloodgate. Which ended 5-6, but was so intense. And terrible weather. Mike Brown was excellent that day.

Re: Team for Wales

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:47 am
by Banquo
Stom wrote:
Banquo wrote:
Which Tyler wrote: I'm sure I remember seeing Patchell and Scarlets Wales play in the rain before at some stage this season....
No shit :D I just prefer dry conditions, rugby is generally better as a spectator.
I still say the best game of rugby I've seen live was bloodgate. Which ended 5-6, but was so intense. And terrible weather. Mike Brown was excellent that day.
Yes but you had skin in that game :D

Re: Team for Wales

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:22 am
by Mellsblue
Banquo wrote:
Stom wrote:
Banquo wrote: No shit :D I just prefer dry conditions, rugby is generally better as a spectator.
I still say the best game of rugby I've seen live was bloodgate. Which ended 5-6, but was so intense. And terrible weather. Mike Brown was excellent that day.
Yes but you had skin in that game :D
Fake skin?

Re: Team for Wales

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:03 am
by Banquo
Mellsblue wrote:
Banquo wrote:
Stom wrote:
I still say the best game of rugby I've seen live was bloodgate. Which ended 5-6, but was so intense. And terrible weather. Mike Brown was excellent that day.
Yes but you had skin in that game :D
Fake skin?
Bloody right