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Re: England u20 24/25 Season

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2025 11:49 pm
by Epaminondas Pules
twitchy wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 10:23 am Do we have any good centres?
Yes several. Wait until we put a decent 10 in place. Lilley and Hall especially are very good!

Re: England u20 24/25 Season

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:38 pm
by Slater582
Had no idea Kepu Tuipulotu spent a few years living in Japan.

Slater582 wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 11:57 pm
Scrumhead wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:10 pm Yeah, I’m not convinced it was a ‘high degree of danger’ but a bit dumb by Kpoku.
Kpoku has been banned. Could've done with him against France, who were very impressive in their opening match.
Kpoku trained with the senior squad at Pennyhill Park last week.

Scrumhead wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 7:17 am Surely odds on for a GS now?
Is this squad staying together or are there any club games that would weaken the side?

Re: England u20 24/25 Season

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:42 am
by Which Tyler
Slater582 wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:38 pmIs this squad staying together or are there any club games that would weaken the side?
U20 trumps PRC; though I'm not 100% that that includes the knock-out stages, especially as clubs are limited in selection in the knock-outs

Re: England u20 24/25 Season

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 1:03 pm
by Which Tyler

Re: England u20 24/25 Season

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:35 pm
by fivepointer
Team for Scotland on Friday (7.15pm)

15 George Pearson (Leicester Tigers, Buckingham RFC, uncapped)
14 Jack Bracken (Saracens, Barnet Elizabethans, 7 caps)
13 Angus Hall (Saracens, Sevenoaks Rugby Club, 8 caps)
12 Nick Lilley (Exeter Chiefs, Ivybridge RFC, 2 caps)
11 Campbell Ridl (Exeter Chiefs, Sharks, uncapped)
10 Ben Coen (Exeter Chiefs, Teignmouth RFC, 7 caps)
9 Lucas Friday (Harlequins, Bromley RFC, 8 caps)
1 Ralph McEachran (Sale Sharks, Guildford RFC, 2 caps)
2 Kepu Tuipulotu (Bath Rugby, Cwmbran RFC, 2 caps)
3 Tye Raymont (Sale Sharks, West Park Leeds RFC, 2 caps)
4 Olamide Sodeke (Saracens, Blackheath Rugby Club, 13 caps)
5 Tom Burrow (c) (Sale Sharks, Morley RUFC, 2 caps)
6 Junior Kpoku (Racing 92, Saracens Amateurs, 12 caps)
7 George Timmins (Bath Rugby, Market Harborough RUFC, 4 caps)
8 Kane James (Exeter Chiefs, St. Peter’s RFC, 11 caps)

Replacements 16 Louie Gulley (Exeter Chiefs, Crediton RFC, 2 caps)
17 Oliver Scola (Northampton Saints, Old Northamptonians RFC, 2 caps)
18 Vilikesa Sela (Bath Rugby, Royal Wootton Bassett RFC, 11 caps)
19 Aiden Ainsworth-Cave (Northampton Saints, Bedford Junior Blues, 2 caps)
20 Connor Treacey (Bath Rugby, New Milton Rugby Club, uncapped)
21 Jonny Weimann (Northampton Saints, Royston Rugby Club, uncapped)
22 Josh Bellamy (Harlequins, Rosslyn Park, 12 caps)
23 Tyler Offiah (Bath Rugby, Ealing Trailfinders, uncapped)

A few new faces but no Pollock. Presumably he'll be named in the A team.

Re: England u20 24/25 Season

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:41 pm
by FKAS
Scotland U20 team to play England U20 on Friday at Kingston Park (kick off 7.15pm) – live on BBC iPlayer

15. Jack Brown – Edinburgh Rugby
14. Nairn Moncrieff – Edinburgh Rugby
13. Johnny Ventisei – Captain – Glasgow Warriors
12. Kerr Yule – Glasgow Warriors
11. Fergus Watson – Glasgow Warriors

10. Matthew Urwin – Glasgow Warriors
9. Noah Cowan – Brunel University/Ealing Trailfinders

1. Jake Shearer – Glasgow Warriors
2. Seb Stephen – Edinburgh Academical FC
3. Ollie Blyth-Lafferty – Edinburgh Rugby
4. Bart Godsell – Loughborough University
5. Dan Halkon – Glasgow Warriors
6. Oliver Duncan – Edinburgh Rugby
7. Freddy Douglas – Edinburgh Rugby
8. Reuben Logan – Northampton Saints

Replacements

16. Joe Roberts – Glasgow Warriors
17. Oliver McKenna – Glasgow Warriors
18. Jamie Stewart – Edinburgh Rugby
19. Charlie Moss – Montpellier
20. Billy Allen – Dungannon RFC
21. Hamish MacArthur – Edinburgh Rugby
22. Campbell Waugh – Glasgow Hawks
23. Ross Wolfenden – Edinburgh Rugby

Re: England u20 24/25 Season

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:45 pm
by FKAS
Interested to see George Pearson get a go at 15 in place of Kinder. From the little I've seen of the Tigers development lads Pearson looks the more natural fullback.

Meaty backrow for England, seem to be lack a natural fetcher though.

Re: England u20 24/25 Season

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2025 5:54 pm
by Epaminondas Pules
The fly halves again. Makes me weep a little inside. Hopefully Davies gets another good run out for Sale in the PRC.

Re: England u20 24/25 Season

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:21 am
by pjm1
The Scottish captain looks good. He may play 13 but he’s basically 2 13s in one player. That’s impressive.

Re: England u20 24/25 Season

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 5:34 pm
by Oakboy
Epaminondas Pules wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 5:54 pm The fly halves again. Makes me weep a little inside. Hopefully Davies gets another good run out for Sale in the PRC.
If Coen is as bad as you (and others) suggest what the hell do Exeter want him for? They have a mistake or two with that shirt already.

Re: England u20 24/25 Season

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 7:44 pm
by FKAS
Scotland's lineout is pretty dire. Helping us out in this one.

Can see what EP means with Coen, couple of slightly iffy passes killing moves so far. Not bad enough to induce weeping mind but he's a mild annoyance, slightly crisper passing and it looks like this backline could cut loose. Bracken's had a fantastic start.

Re: England u20 24/25 Season

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 8:49 pm
by Oakboy
Coen's replacement, Bellamy, is taking tee kicks with his right foot and kicks from hand with his left - unusual.

Re: England u20 24/25 Season

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:06 pm
by FKAS
Oakboy wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 8:49 pm Coen's replacement, Bellamy, is taking tee kicks with his right foot and kicks from hand with his left - unusual.
All the party tricks from him. Likes to run it ball in hand as well doesn't he.

Re: England u20 24/25 Season

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:07 pm
by Captainhaircut
Oakboy wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 8:49 pm Coen's replacement, Bellamy, is taking tee kicks with his right foot and kicks from hand with his left - unusual.
He’s got a good skillset but think his size will always hold him back as he’ll be targetted in defence. Doubt he’ll be good enough in the rest of the game to make that up. Surprised no one has tried to move him to scrum half.

Re: England u20 24/25 Season

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:09 pm
by Oakboy
Awesome forwards' display. The Scots were out-muscled. We have some good prospects in the pack.

Re: England u20 24/25 Season

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:10 pm
by p/d
Oakboy wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:09 pm Awesome forwards' display. The Scots were out-muscled. We have some good prospects in the pack.
Or Scotland have f**k all!

Re: England u20 24/25 Season

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:13 pm
by Danno
We're capping Tuipolotou ASAP right

Re: England u20 24/25 Season

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:22 pm
by fivepointer
We were very good at times.

Thought Bellamy brought some zip into our attack and Ridl was a real handful, Bracken was good and Lilley showed some nice touches. Tuipolotou, James and all 4 props went well.

This is a very talented group.

Re: England u20 24/25 Season

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:23 pm
by Oakboy
Danno wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:13 pm We're capping Tuipolotou ASAP right
Essential!!

Re: England u20 24/25 Season

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:24 pm
by Oakboy
fivepointer wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:22 pm We were very good at times.

Thought Bellamy brought some zip into our attack and Ridl was a real handful, Bracken was good and Lilley showed some nice touches. Tuipolotou, James and all 4 props went well.

This is a very talented group.
What did you think of Pearson? Looked useful to me.

Re: England u20 24/25 Season

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:35 pm
by fivepointer
Oakboy wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:24 pm
fivepointer wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:22 pm We were very good at times.

Thought Bellamy brought some zip into our attack and Ridl was a real handful, Bracken was good and Lilley showed some nice touches. Tuipolotou, James and all 4 props went well.

This is a very talented group.
What did you think of Pearson? Looked useful to me.
Slotted in very nicely. We're really spoilt for choice with back 3 players.

Re: England u20 24/25 Season

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 11:34 pm
by Which Tyler
Danno wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:13 pm We're capping Tuipolotou ASAP right
Gatland wanted to last year.
When he was 18
Don't be like Gatland

Show him love, maybe an A appearance, but let him grow an adult skeleton

Re: England u20 24/25 Season

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 12:49 am
by Danno
Which Tyler wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 11:34 pm
Danno wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:13 pm We're capping Tuipolotou ASAP right
Gatland wanted to last year.
When he was 18
Don't be like Gatland

Show him love, maybe an A appearance, but let him grow an adult skeleton
Yep totally fair, but make sure Engerland loves him most

Re: England u20 24/25 Season

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 8:16 am
by FKAS
fivepointer wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:35 pm
Oakboy wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:24 pm
fivepointer wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:22 pm We were very good at times.

Thought Bellamy brought some zip into our attack and Ridl was a real handful, Bracken was good and Lilley showed some nice touches. Tuipolotou, James and all 4 props went well.

This is a very talented group.
What did you think of Pearson? Looked useful to me.
Slotted in very nicely. We're really spoilt for choice with back 3 players.
Pearson only turned 19 last month. Scored a couple Vs Notts in the Prem Cup the other week and has been on loan in National League 1 with Leicester Lions. Looks composed for his age, I was surprised we went with Kinder over Pearson at fullback for the first two games.

Re: England u20 24/25 Season

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 10:18 pm
by Epaminondas Pules
This backline will murder someone with a decent 10. Coen is just too slow to react and Bellamy; well he’s nowhere near good enough. He did, I’ll admit, have probably his best outing at this level in his cameo, but neither he nor Coen is getting any serious senior game time at club level!

Came up against a big pack again and did well. Starting props struggled at scrum time, but decent otherwise.

Backrow imbalance told.

Backline is magic but lacking the unlocking key!