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Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 12:09 am
by Epaminondas Pules
IFW played some centre at age grade but has only played wing in senior rugby……

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 1:30 am
by Mikey Brown
Epaminondas Pules wrote: Mon Apr 21, 2025 12:09 am IFW played some centre at age grade but has only played wing in senior rugby……
Has he ever played hooker? Imagine if he could learn to scrum/throw and still do all that damage in the loose.

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 7:52 am
by Beasties
Puja wrote: Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:02 pm
Banquo wrote: Sun Apr 20, 2025 11:09 am
Captainhaircut wrote: Sun Apr 20, 2025 9:45 am Sounds like Ojomoh picked up a fairly nasty injury yesterday. Likely to miss the summer tour which is a shame.

Centre looking quite problematic for the summer with Freeman and Lawrence missing. Beard looks badly out of form.

On the plus side, Atkinson is excellent and Hartley looked very good (and very large) yesterday. Could Dingwall move to 13 and partner one of those?
Dingwall is a rare bird that can and does play both inside and outside centre for Saints, and mixes it up in the same game. So yes- he's probably a better defender at 13 than 12 as well.

I think Northmore could be developed too. Maasi-White still needs some coaching.
I don't see what people see in Northmore - looks bang average in all facets and, while he does pull out something excellent, he complements it with regular basic errors.

Woodward and Waghorn are also going to be in the conversation for the summer, although I'd rate them a distance behind SAtkinson.

What would be people's opinions on trying IFW at 13 in the summer (assuming no Freeman/Lawrence)? Played there when he was at Wasps, he's not the kind of winger that needs the wide-open spaces to be effective, and I'd certainly be keen on getting the ball in his hands as often as possible.

Puja
Was about to ask if IFW ever actually played for Wasps, let alone 13 for Wasps? But I see EP has said he’s only ever played wing in senior games.

My memories of Wasps are fading sadly and google’s as much use as nowt.

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 9:00 am
by Puja
Beasties wrote: Mon Apr 21, 2025 7:52 am
Puja wrote: Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:02 pm
Banquo wrote: Sun Apr 20, 2025 11:09 am

Dingwall is a rare bird that can and does play both inside and outside centre for Saints, and mixes it up in the same game. So yes- he's probably a better defender at 13 than 12 as well.

I think Northmore could be developed too. Maasi-White still needs some coaching.
I don't see what people see in Northmore - looks bang average in all facets and, while he does pull out something excellent, he complements it with regular basic errors.

Woodward and Waghorn are also going to be in the conversation for the summer, although I'd rate them a distance behind SAtkinson.

What would be people's opinions on trying IFW at 13 in the summer (assuming no Freeman/Lawrence)? Played there when he was at Wasps, he's not the kind of winger that needs the wide-open spaces to be effective, and I'd certainly be keen on getting the ball in his hands as often as possible.

Puja
Was about to ask if IFW ever actually played for Wasps, let alone 13 for Wasps? But I see EP has said he’s only ever played wing in senior games.

My memories of Wasps are fading sadly and google’s as much use as nowt.
Definitely had a game in the Prem Cup at centre - I remember getting quite excited and then the commentary told me he was Welsh and I decided I didn't ever think he was that good anyway.

ETA. That's not me contradicting EP, btw - Prem Cup doesn't really count.

Puja

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 9:12 am
by fivepointer
I'd be surprised if IFW played anywhere this summer given his long lay off.

We dont know if Ojomoh has been ruled out so I remain hopeful. Add in Dingwall, Beard and Atkinson and I think we have quite a nice balance. There is always the option of going back to Slade or possibly Lozowski if we're really short.

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 9:30 am
by Danno
fivepointer wrote: Mon Apr 21, 2025 9:12 am I'd be surprised if IFW played anywhere this summer given his long lay off.

There is always the option of going back to Slade if we're really short.
I'm quite short. Can we not.

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 12:56 pm
by Epaminondas Pules
fivepointer wrote: Mon Apr 21, 2025 9:12 am I'd be surprised if IFW played anywhere this summer given his long lay off.

We dont know if Ojomoh has been ruled out so I remain hopeful. Add in Dingwall, Beard and Atkinson and I think we have quite a nice balance. There is always the option of going back to Slade or possibly Lozowski if we're really short.
Lozowski has done his achilles

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 1:35 pm
by Scrumhead
Didn’t know that. Shame for him but the upside should be more game time for Hartley.

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 3:13 pm
by Mellsblue
Does IFW have the hands for 13. Can’t ever remember seeing him throw a pass! Tbf, he normally doesn’t have to!!

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:14 am
by Epaminondas Pules
Mellsblue wrote: Mon Apr 21, 2025 3:13 pm Does IFW have the hands for 13. Can’t ever remember seeing him throw a pass! Tbf, he normally doesn’t have to!!
Reiko Ioane has made a successfuk career despite his truly dreadful hands.

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:19 pm
by Puja
Thinking of wingers, I 'd be interested in seeing Radwan go on tour. He's always been dangerous with his lightning pace, but he's (unsurprisingly) looked a better all-round player surrounded by higher class at Leicester. I've been especially impressed with how Leicester have used him as a weapon off attacking kicks - his pace means he turns any kick into space into a danger situation and he very rarely misses the first up tackle because, where other players would be sprinting and vulnerable to a step, he's idling and can track any outside arc you care to make. Not that I want to encourage KADABing, but he's added another really viable option for Leicester in attack and it'll soon start making space in the midfield as sides have to cover more space to defend him.

Puja

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2025 8:00 am
by FKAS
Puja wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:19 pm Thinking of wingers, I 'd be interested in seeing Radwan go on tour. He's always been dangerous with his lightning pace, but he's (unsurprisingly) looked a better all-round player surrounded by higher class at Leicester. I've been especially impressed with how Leicester have used him as a weapon off attacking kicks - his pace means he turns any kick into space into a danger situation and he very rarely misses the first up tackle because, where other players would be sprinting and vulnerable to a step, he's idling and can track any outside arc you care to make. Not that I want to encourage KADABing, but he's added another really viable option for Leicester in attack and it'll soon start making space in the midfield as sides have to cover more space to defend him.

Puja
Radwan and OHC have become a really good wing combination. OHC has become a good kick chase option and similarly decent at applying pressure on those kicks. Radwan's outright pace as you say really opens up the opportunity to kick long, find grass and leave the opposition defence scrambling on the turn.

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2025 11:30 am
by Mikey Brown
FKAS wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 8:00 am
Puja wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:19 pm Thinking of wingers, I 'd be interested in seeing Radwan go on tour. He's always been dangerous with his lightning pace, but he's (unsurprisingly) looked a better all-round player surrounded by higher class at Leicester. I've been especially impressed with how Leicester have used him as a weapon off attacking kicks - his pace means he turns any kick into space into a danger situation and he very rarely misses the first up tackle because, where other players would be sprinting and vulnerable to a step, he's idling and can track any outside arc you care to make. Not that I want to encourage KADABing, but he's added another really viable option for Leicester in attack and it'll soon start making space in the midfield as sides have to cover more space to defend him.

Puja
Radwan and OHC have become a really good wing combination. OHC has become a good kick chase option and similarly decent at applying pressure on those kicks. Radwan's outright pace as you say really opens up the opportunity to kick long, find grass and leave the opposition defence scrambling on the turn.
It’s quite the upgrade from about a season ago where one game you had Brown and maybe Kata (?) on the other wing.

But yes, great in terms of England depth for those two to be kicking on.

If you could realistically field a team of only backrows and wingers we’d be in pretty good shape.

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2025 11:39 am
by Banquo
FKAS wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 8:00 am
Puja wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:19 pm Thinking of wingers, I 'd be interested in seeing Radwan go on tour. He's always been dangerous with his lightning pace, but he's (unsurprisingly) looked a better all-round player surrounded by higher class at Leicester. I've been especially impressed with how Leicester have used him as a weapon off attacking kicks - his pace means he turns any kick into space into a danger situation and he very rarely misses the first up tackle because, where other players would be sprinting and vulnerable to a step, he's idling and can track any outside arc you care to make. Not that I want to encourage KADABing, but he's added another really viable option for Leicester in attack and it'll soon start making space in the midfield as sides have to cover more space to defend him.

Puja
Radwan and OHC have become a really good wing combination. OHC has become a good kick chase option and similarly decent at applying pressure on those kicks. Radwan's outright pace as you say really opens up the opportunity to kick long, find grass and leave the opposition defence scrambling on the turn.
anything to say about what they can do with the ball, like run really well :)

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2025 11:59 am
by FKAS
Banquo wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 11:39 am
FKAS wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 8:00 am
Puja wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:19 pm Thinking of wingers, I 'd be interested in seeing Radwan go on tour. He's always been dangerous with his lightning pace, but he's (unsurprisingly) looked a better all-round player surrounded by higher class at Leicester. I've been especially impressed with how Leicester have used him as a weapon off attacking kicks - his pace means he turns any kick into space into a danger situation and he very rarely misses the first up tackle because, where other players would be sprinting and vulnerable to a step, he's idling and can track any outside arc you care to make. Not that I want to encourage KADABing, but he's added another really viable option for Leicester in attack and it'll soon start making space in the midfield as sides have to cover more space to defend him.

Puja
Radwan and OHC have become a really good wing combination. OHC has become a good kick chase option and similarly decent at applying pressure on those kicks. Radwan's outright pace as you say really opens up the opportunity to kick long, find grass and leave the opposition defence scrambling on the turn.
anything to say about what they can do with the ball, like run really well :)
Well they've both always been good at that, it was questions around the other stuff holding them back. OHC has 13 tries in 20 appearances this season and Radwan 4 in 6 since joining Tigers.

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:19 pm
by Banquo
FKAS wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 11:59 am
Banquo wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 11:39 am
FKAS wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 8:00 am

Radwan and OHC have become a really good wing combination. OHC has become a good kick chase option and similarly decent at applying pressure on those kicks. Radwan's outright pace as you say really opens up the opportunity to kick long, find grass and leave the opposition defence scrambling on the turn.
anything to say about what they can do with the ball, like run really well :)
it was questions around the other stuff holding them back.
was it?
I was just mildly ribbing, as you seem a bit of a kicking addict :)

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:22 pm
by Danno
In related news FKAS is a Tigers fan

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:48 pm
by FKAS
Banquo wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:19 pm
FKAS wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 11:59 am
Banquo wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 11:39 am

anything to say about what they can do with the ball, like run really well :)
it was questions around the other stuff holding them back.
was it?
I was just mildly ribbing, as you seem a bit of a kicking addict :)
I appreciate a good bit of tactical play as well as good attacking rugby.

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:59 pm
by Banquo
FKAS wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:48 pm
Banquo wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:19 pm
FKAS wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 11:59 am

it was questions around the other stuff holding them back.
was it?
I was just mildly ribbing, as you seem a bit of a kicking addict :)
I appreciate a good bit of tactical play as well as good attacking rugby.
masterly understatement :)

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:59 pm
by Banquo
Danno wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:22 pm In related news FKAS is a Tigers fan
harsh but fair

Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2025 1:03 pm
by Danno
:D