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Sandydragon wrote:

Zhivago wrote:

Sandydragon wrote: The red line is naming another poster and claiming they are racist. There is a process to report posts for review which must be followed, and an escalation process if you don't like the outcome.

If we're talking about due process, then I think it would benefit the process a lot if when you delete someone's post (e.g. mine in this thread) you at least inform them what it was that they said that you deemed to be crossing a line. Rather than just vanishing posts like a dictator vanishes people he doesn't like.

Yours had quoted a post where an individual was named.

In this case it should be edited rather than deleted.

Oh god I somehow just clicked on a youtube video of Kyle Rittenhouse being interviewed on some chat show like he's fucking Justin Bieber. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I started scrolling the comments and I'm just lost for words. I knew he'd gotten away with it but I couldn't face reading any details. I'm sure none of you want to read this, but this is just blowing my fucking mind, assuming any of these comments are from real humans.

lansing street blues
13 hours ago
this old woman cried like a baby when Kyle was acquitted; I have a grandson his age and was praying for Kyle and his fam throughout the ordeal. It was a pleasure to see him smile and laugh. Thank you.
PS. My faith was restored in my fellow WI jurors.

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4 Door Smore Whores
4 Door Smore Whores
18 hours ago (edited)
Kyle is hilarious.
He should start a coffee company, Rittenhouse Espresso shots would sell so well.

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Mirelle in Israel
Mirelle in Israel
10 hours ago
Yessss get Kyle on Crowder!! Great episode guys, this is the most I’ve laughed in two years - for real. Thank you!

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Dude McRadGuy
Dude McRadGuy
16 hours ago
This is so surreal seeing him not in a suit in such a relaxed atmosphere

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Rita Reitsma
Rita Reitsma
12 minutes ago
No one deserves a victory lap more than Kyle.

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perception ascending
perception ascending
3 hours ago
I'm so happy this man is is recovering so well, I was concerned he had bad PTSD but if he's ok doing interviews that's awesome!!

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Nicholas Herfst
Nicholas Herfst
15 hours ago
Hey Kyle, I'm surprised, you're a lot cooler and funnier than I expected. I think you have a career in this.

But what if killer who hangs out with Proud Boys is in fact the good guy?

But what if Proud Boy is good boys? No idea what Proud Boys are and apparently just googling the fucking thing is out of the question, so I'm going to ruminate on the possibility that they are, in fact, the heroes.

But what if Richard Spencer is good guy? I have no idea whom Richard Spencer is and apparently just googling the fucking racist dickfuck is out of the question, so I'm going to ruminate on the possibility that he is, in fact, the hero.

But what if Klan protect good community? I have no idea who the Ku Klux Klan are, and apparently just googling the fucking mask-wearing racist cunts is out of the question, so I'm going to ruminate on the possibility that they are, in fact, the heroes.

But what if Confederates and slavery good? I have no idea what the Confederate States of America stood for, nor what their cornerstone, as outlined in the "Cornerstone Speech" was, and apparently just googling the fucking thing is out of the question, so I'm going to ruminate on the possibility that they are, in fact, the heroes.

You have no idea how much joy I get from this photo. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

These are all perfectly acceptable comments and posts, right?

Sandydragon wrote:you should be aware that no mod felt your complaint was worthy of a ban.

Your words, Sandy.

Tee hee hee

But what if good guy, and he's just leading the crowd in a cheer for someone, by forming the letter "P" for the people behind him?

But what if good guys illuminating dark part of town for everyone?

Zhivago wrote:

Sandydragon wrote:

Son of Mathonwy wrote: Can you clarify what we're allowed to do here? If someone says something that I think is racist, what am I prohibited from saying? I'd prefer to engage than to have someone banned (or not, as the case may be) by some opaque process.

The red line is naming another poster and claiming they are racist. There is a process to report posts for review which must be followed, and an escalation process if you don't like the outcome.

If we're talking about due process, then I think it would benefit the process a lot if when you delete someone's post (e.g. mine in this thread) you at least inform them what it was that they said that you deemed to be crossing a line. Rather than just vanishing posts like a dictator vanishes people he doesn't like.

As similes go, this is rather fantastic

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Sandydragon wrote:

Son of Mathonwy wrote:

Sandydragon wrote:Enough.

Accusing another poster of racism, or any other offence against the board's rules, must be done via the complaints button. If you don't like the outcome, take the matter up with an administrator.

Continued 'judgement' in this forum will not be tolerated. I refer you all to the board's rules on bullying and harassment. I am deleting the posts where accusations have been made.

Can you clarify what we're allowed to do here? If someone says something that I think is racist, what am I prohibited from saying? I'd prefer to engage than to have someone banned (or not, as the case may be) by some opaque process.

The red line is naming another poster and claiming they are racist. There is a process to report posts for review which must be followed, and an escalation process if you don't like the outcome.

Okay, so I assume we can say that a post seems racist, or that an opinion seems racist? Otherwise how can such things be discussed?

I agree that no one should be hounding anyone but I think some more transparency would be better here: explanations for locking threads, deletions. And ideally posts could be amended rather than deleted entirely.

"Escalation to a bunch of absentee admins." lol


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But what if they're just a bunch of patriotic lads having a big afternoon walk? Hmmm?

Cas, I think everyone gets your point by now.

Puja

Puja wrote:Cas, I think everyone gets your point by now.

Puja

Are you sure? Because according to Sandy, they're perfectly acceptable posts that no moderator could possibly find fault with. In fact, anyone that criticises what I’ve posted is, in fact, the one who is in the wrong.

I mean, it’s not like Sandy’s pointlessly backed themselves into a corner for no good apparent reason, in the process of making one of the worst moderating decisions I’ve ever seen.

cashead wrote:

Puja wrote:Cas, I think everyone gets your point by now.

Puja

Are you sure? Because according to Sandy, they're perfectly acceptable posts that no moderator could possibly find fault with.

I will take a moment to note that I am not the mod for this board or, in fact, in charge of anything aside from the EMB (and North America and General Rugby, but no-one goes in those). So this is not an official pronouncement or Word of Mod or anything.

I get your point. I agree with your point in a lot of respects. Your point is very solidly and stridently made. Please cut it out now, as further grinding of it into the dirt will accomplish nothing except annoying all of the people who agree with you.

Puja

Puja wrote:

cashead wrote:

Puja wrote:Cas, I think everyone gets your point by now.

Puja

Are you sure? Because according to Sandy, they're perfectly acceptable posts that no moderator could possibly find fault with.

I will take a moment to note that I am not the mod for this board or, in fact, in charge of anything aside from the EMB (and North America and General Rugby, but no-one goes in those). So this is not an official pronouncement or Word of Mod or anything.

I get your point. I agree with your point in a lot of respects. Your point is very solidly and stridently made. Please cut it out now, as further grinding of it into the dirt will accomplish nothing except annoying all of the people who agree with you.

Puja

See, now, this is interesting, because right here, your statement contradicts what Sandy said about "no moderator" found those types of posts ban-worthy. Funny that.

This is about Sandydragon demonstrating that they're no longer capable of acting as a moderator to a sufficient standard, with increasingly high-handed behaviour, and the default fall-back on "take it up with the admins," knowing that they've been a bunch of absentee landlords for a while.

It's clear that they prefer a negative peace instead of actually dealing with the issue. This could have been dealt with a long time ago, but because they're a shitty moderator, here's where we are. Can't say I expected much better from someone who got pissy because I refused to play nice with someone that used racial epithets at me.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/10/us/missi ... index.html

Two white dudes open fire on a black fed ex driver delivering packages and get a week to turn themselves in.

J Dory wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/10/us/missi ... index.html

Two white dudes open fire on a black fed ex driver delivering packages and get a week to turn themselves in.

Fucking hell America. That report is just a cavalcade of the things wrong with the country. Let's skip the top-level obvious stuff of "I saw a black guy and so shot at him cause I was defending my home", the police that wanted to play devil's advocate and ask "Did you do anything to make them think you were suspicious" and who gave the wannabe lynchers the option to come in as and when was convenient for them, and the charges for shooting at someone fleeing being "assault" rather than attempted murder, and let's look at the employer.

Fed-Ex made him a) rent his own van to deliver the parcels in the first place, b) when he reported being shot at said not to go to the police and that they would file a police report in the morning (presumably with the implication that he still had a shift to finish), c) SENT HIM BACK TO DELIVERING IN THE SAME ROUTE WHERE HE JUST GOT CHASED OUT BY RACISTS WITH GUNS, and d) are not paying him now that he's understandably collapsed in a heap of mental health issues.

What the actual fuck.

Puja

Wait, I thought everything was fine now because Biden?

Puja wrote:

J Dory wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/10/us/missi ... index.html

Two white dudes open fire on a black fed ex driver delivering packages and get a week to turn themselves in.

Fucking hell America. That report is just a cavalcade of the things wrong with the country. Let's skip the top-level obvious stuff of "I saw a black guy and so shot at him cause I was defending my home", the police that wanted to play devil's advocate and ask "Did you do anything to make them think you were suspicious" and who gave the wannabe lynchers the option to come in as and when was convenient for them, and the charges for shooting at someone fleeing being "assault" rather than attempted murder, and let's look at the employer.

Fed-Ex made him a) rent his own van to deliver the parcels in the first place, b) when he reported being shot at said not to go to the police and that they would file a police report in the morning (presumably with the implication that he still had a shift to finish), c) SENT HIM BACK TO DELIVERING IN THE SAME ROUTE WHERE HE JUST GOT CHASED OUT BY RACISTS WITH GUNS, and d) are not paying him now that he's understandably collapsed in a heap of mental health issues.

What the actual fuck.

Puja

Indeed a basket case

"Just a few bad apples".

Fuck the South.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/liv ... ve-updates

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