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Numbers wrote:

Mellsblue wrote:

Numbers wrote:
Ok, in that case I would suggest that this wasn't a gilt-edged chance, of course his running angle allowed him to make the break in the first place but lets not let that get in the way of the JD bashing.

To give you an idea we had I think 15 clean line breaks v the Blues and scored one try, I think on Saturday it was something along the lines of 11 and we scored no tries, so scoring from the advanced position that you 'hope' we would have converted from would be wishful thinking I suspect, see the numerous times we have failed to convert from 5 yards out as an example.

No-one seems to be bashing Stander for taking his eye off the ball completely with the line begging, or Te'o's hopeless pass to Williams, ditto Watson.

If you want to critcise then try to do it with a measure of perspective.

I'll criticise them all but I'm not going to write a list of all those who've ****ed up just so I can point out that Davies ****ed up. I'm still angry with Kay for dropping the ball over the line in the 2003 World Cup final but maybe I should just be happy he had the ability to stand out there to create the opportunity in the first place.

Just because we've failed to convert so many line breaks doesn't take away from the fact that it's a try scoring opportunity. Any line break in the oppo's 22 should be considered a try scoring opportunity.

When it comes down to it it was a big mistake. We won't have many scoring opportunities in the tests and one that good should not be squandered with such a poor piece of execution.
Just to show I'm not completely one sided, I was very pleased that he didn't fire it into row F of the crowd as he normally does off his left hand.

You can continue as you are, just don't expect anyone to take you seriously if you just have an agenda.

Here's what Guscott said: "Jonathan Davies is also in such good form that he is likely to start in the Test matches and they will want to get him back as quickly as possible."

I wouldn't think you have any respect for him either,, not one pundit has criticised Davies to my knowledge and as previously stated there were bigger mistakes from other players imo which have been glossed over, but lets not let any facts disrupt the witch hunt.

Numbers wrote:

Mellsblue wrote:

Numbers wrote:
Ok, in that case I would suggest that this wasn't a gilt-edged chance, of course his running angle allowed him to make the break in the first place but lets not let that get in the way of the JD bashing.

To give you an idea we had I think 15 clean line breaks v the Blues and scored one try, I think on Saturday it was something along the lines of 11 and we scored no tries, so scoring from the advanced position that you 'hope' we would have converted from would be wishful thinking I suspect, see the numerous times we have failed to convert from 5 yards out as an example.

No-one seems to be bashing Stander for taking his eye off the ball completely with the line begging, or Te'o's hopeless pass to Williams, ditto Watson.

If you want to critcise then try to do it with a measure of perspective.

I'll criticise them all but I'm not going to write a list of all those who've ****ed up just so I can point out that Davies ****ed up. I'm still angry with Kay for dropping the ball over the line in the 2003 World Cup final but maybe I should just be happy he had the ability to stand out there to create the opportunity in the first place.

Just because we've failed to convert so many line breaks doesn't take away from the fact that it's a try scoring opportunity. Any line break in the oppo's 22 should be considered a try scoring opportunity.

When it comes down to it it was a big mistake. We won't have many scoring opportunities in the tests and one that good should not be squandered with such a poor piece of execution.
Just to show I'm not completely one sided, I was very pleased that he didn't fire it into row F of the crowd as he normally does off his left hand.

You can continue as you are, just don't expect anyone to take you seriously if you just have an agenda.

Here's what Guscott said: "Jonathan Davies is also in such good form that he is likely to start in the Test matches and they will want to get him back as quickly as possible."

I wouldn't think you have any respect for him either,, not one pundit has criticised Davies to my knowledge and as previously stated there were bigger mistakes from other players imo which have been glossed over, but lets not let any facts disrupt the witch hunt.

Puja wrote:

Numbers wrote:

Mellsblue wrote: I'll criticise them all but I'm not going to write a list of all those who've ****ed up just so I can point out that Davies ****ed up. I'm still angry with Kay for dropping the ball over the line in the 2003 World Cup final but maybe I should just be happy he had the ability to stand out there to create the opportunity in the first place.

Just because we've failed to convert so many line breaks doesn't take away from the fact that it's a try scoring opportunity. Any line break in the oppo's 22 should be considered a try scoring opportunity.

When it comes down to it it was a big mistake. We won't have many scoring opportunities in the tests and one that good should not be squandered with such a poor piece of execution.
Just to show I'm not completely one sided, I was very pleased that he didn't fire it into row F of the crowd as he normally does off his left hand.

You can continue as you are, just don't expect anyone to take you seriously if you just have an agenda.

Here's what Guscott said: "Jonathan Davies is also in such good form that he is likely to start in the Test matches and they will want to get him back as quickly as possible."

I wouldn't think you have any respect for him either,, not one pundit has criticised Davies to my knowledge and as previously stated there were bigger mistakes from other players imo which have been glossed over, but lets not let any facts disrupt the witch hunt.

Did you seriously just quote Guscott to support your point?

Puja

Numbers wrote:

Puja wrote:

Numbers wrote:
You can continue as you are, just don't expect anyone to take you seriously if you just have an agenda.

Here's what Guscott said: "Jonathan Davies is also in such good form that he is likely to start in the Test matches and they will want to get him back as quickly as possible."

I wouldn't think you have any respect for him either,, not one pundit has criticised Davies to my knowledge and as previously stated there were bigger mistakes from other players imo which have been glossed over, but lets not let any facts disrupt the witch hunt.

Did you seriously just quote Guscott to support your point?

Puja

I suppose you know better than Guscott?

What would you base your obvious superior ability to read the game on or are you just trotting out an opinion formed by the EMB illuminati?

cashead wrote:And assuming there are no injuries, there's a high likelihood that it'll be 1 of Ryan Crotty or Sonny Bill Williams at 12 and probably Anton Lienert-Brown at 13 lining up against the Lions. You want someone with a bit of staunch defence to hold them up.

Puja wrote:

Numbers wrote:

Puja wrote:
Did you seriously just quote Guscott to support your point?

Puja

I suppose you know better than Guscott?

What would you base your obvious superior ability to read the game on or are you just trotting out an opinion formed by the EMB illuminati?

I'm not claiming that I necessarily know better, for it is well known that I am a fool. I'm asking whether you have read anything written by Guscott in the past, or worse, met the tw*t in person.

Great rugby player. Appalling human being. A below average pundit. I'm just astounded that he's being referenced by a Welshman as a fount of truth; he's pretty much the epitome of English-stereotype that you love to hate!

Puja

Timbo wrote:Joseph is an excellent defender, but a lot more passive than JDavies.

Banquo wrote:

Timbo wrote:Joseph is an excellent defender, but a lot more passive than JDavies.

aye, JJ is a brilliant drift defender, and organises his wing well, great communicator; Davies better set up as an out to in defender, but suspect he'd be stretched as a drifter out in NZ..just as JJ gets a little less good when head on.

I'd actually go with JJ looking at what's happening in games out there, but JD is by no means the player a lot seem to see- he's a very good intl 13, whose hands sometimes let him down.

Digby wrote:

Banquo wrote:

Timbo wrote:Joseph is an excellent defender, but a lot more passive than JDavies.

aye, JJ is a brilliant drift defender, and organises his wing well, great communicator; Davies better set up as an out to in defender, but suspect he'd be stretched as a drifter out in NZ..just as JJ gets a little less good when head on.

I'd actually go with JJ looking at what's happening in games out there, but JD is by no means the player a lot seem to see- he's a very good intl 13, whose hands sometimes let him down.

In the Times a few weeks back Shane Williams was making the case that JD is the sort of centre who could play 10 such was the quality of JD's handling, so there's that to ponder on as it has the hallmarks of being a cogent piece of analysis by Shane!

Banquo wrote:

Digby wrote:

Banquo wrote: aye, JJ is a brilliant drift defender, and organises his wing well, great communicator; Davies better set up as an out to in defender, but suspect he'd be stretched as a drifter out in NZ..just as JJ gets a little less good when head on.

I'd actually go with JJ looking at what's happening in games out there, but JD is by no means the player a lot seem to see- he's a very good intl 13, whose hands sometimes let him down.

In the Times a few weeks back Shane Williams was making the case that JD is the sort of centre who could play 10 such was the quality of JD's handling, so there's that to ponder on as it has the hallmarks of being a cogent piece of analysis by Shane!

cripes, that's weird.

Timbo wrote:I was sat down reading it and I still nearly fell over.

Digby wrote:

Timbo wrote:I was sat down reading it and I still nearly fell over.

Reasonably so. Maybe we're missing the point, but it would seem there are lots of things to praise about his game before claiming his handling provides an assured touch

Buggaluggs wrote:JD dropped his Lions jacket when it was presented to him