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Re: Team for Italy

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:12 pm
by paddy no 11
That's a shocker, my condolences to RR englanders

Re: Team for Italy

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:20 pm
by Puja
I've got one upside - Te'o and Tuilagi at least has the merit of taking the pressure off Manu to be the number 1 bosh man in tight and lets him run at outside shoulders where he's actually effective.

Puja

Re: Team for Italy

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:32 pm
by Stom
Puja wrote:I've got one upside - Te'o and Tuilagi at least has the merit of taking the pressure off Manu to be the number 1 bosh man in tight and lets him run at outside shoulders where he's actually effective.

Puja
Oh yes, that's true. So how many times will he actually get the ball?

5 times in 3 games for 2 players...

I think we can predict Tuilagi will touch the ball 0.66 times.

Re: Team for Italy

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:32 pm
by paddy no 11
Puja wrote:I've got one upside - Te'o and Tuilagi at least has the merit of taking the pressure off Manu to be the number 1 bosh man in tight and lets him run at outside shoulders where he's actually effective.

Puja
but who's going to pass him the ball?

Re: Team for Italy

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:43 pm
by Digby
I'm just going to assume you're all on the wind up. Nobody wants that side

Re: Team for Italy

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:46 pm
by Oakboy
You can hear it now the post-match statement. 'You wanted us to kick less so we picked a team to run the ball. 6 tries is ample evidence that we got it right."

A physically dominant victory with tries scored late in the game against a tiring opposition XV, is not hard to imagine. As progress towards RWC preparation will it be relevant at all, though?

Re: Team for Italy

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:49 pm
by Freddo
twitchy wrote:Teo has shown on multiple occasions that he is very effective at test level. I don't really see what the problem people have with him unless you are a wuss fan.

Thorley is brilliant. Just a matter of time before he nails down an england spot. Having him coka and may going forward is amazing really, spoiled for choice.
And Watson.
Stom wrote:I mean... I had to go check because I was certain that was a windup.

Awful team. Just awful. Poor Curry. Poor Genge. Poor Robson, ffs! It's just an affront to rugby.
Curry and Genge are both in the team. Not sure what Robson has to do to get a start though.

Re: Team for Italy

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:51 pm
by El Tigre
This selection has made me a little sad. Though Eddie might just be getting the selection ready for Gatland to come in as it has Gatball written all over it.

Re: Team for Italy

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:51 pm
by Stom
Digby wrote:I'm just going to assume you're all on the wind up. Nobody wants that side
I like to think that Beefeater is somewhere gleefully rubbing his thighs and screaming "Ooooooh" while listening to Andrew Sheridan's album on repeat.

Re: Team for Italy

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:54 pm
by Stom
Freddo wrote:
twitchy wrote:Teo has shown on multiple occasions that he is very effective at test level. I don't really see what the problem people have with him unless you are a wuss fan.

Thorley is brilliant. Just a matter of time before he nails down an england spot. Having him coka and may going forward is amazing really, spoiled for choice.
And Watson.
Stom wrote:I mean... I had to go check because I was certain that was a windup.

Awful team. Just awful. Poor Curry. Poor Genge. Poor Robson, ffs! It's just an affront to rugby.
Curry and Genge are both in the team. Not sure what Robson has to do to get a start though.
I meant Curry has to do the work of 2 and Genge has to put up with a poor performance around him and getting labeled as the weaker link...

Re: Team for Italy

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:02 pm
by Mellsblue
Stom wrote:
Digby wrote:I'm just going to assume you're all on the wind up. Nobody wants that side
I like to think that Beefeater is somewhere gleefully rubbing his thighs and screaming "Ooooooh" while listening to Andrew Sheridan's album on repeat.
Between that mental image and this England team it’s going to be a nightmare filled nights sleep.

Re: Team for Italy

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:07 pm
by Freddo
Stom wrote: I meant Curry has to do the work of 2 and Genge has to put up with a poor performance around him and getting labeled as the weaker link...
:oops: :) No doubt.

Re: Team for Italy

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:21 pm
by Digby
Mellsblue wrote:
Stom wrote:
Digby wrote:I'm just going to assume you're all on the wind up. Nobody wants that side
I like to think that Beefeater is somewhere gleefully rubbing his thighs and screaming "Ooooooh" while listening to Andrew Sheridan's album on repeat.
Between that mental image and this England team it’s going to be a nightmare filled nights sleep.
This is no time to be a hero, pour plenty into the brandy glass

Re: Team for Italy

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:25 pm
by JellyHead
I don't see what people have against this team. Teo to run the dummy, Farrell to through the miss pass to Manu and the fastest back 3 we have to chase down the intercept. Makes sense to me.

Re: Team for Italy

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:31 pm
by Digby
The reasonably small Italian backline will want their pack to stop ball coming out quickly into the backs. It doesn’t look to be a creative gameplan, nor one to trouble a good side, but supposing we don't kick the plastic off the ball it should be a backline which gives Italy problems. My problem is being so cross we're unwilling to give Italy problems using Robson, Ford and Joseph (and then not dropping them after the Italy game)

Re: Team for Italy

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:35 pm
by Mikey Brown
Digby wrote:The reasonably small Italian backline will want their pack to stop ball coming out quickly into the backs. It doesn’t look to be a creative gameplan, nor one to trouble a good side, but supposing we don't kick the plastic off the ball it should be a backline which gives Italy problems. My problem is being so cross we're unwilling to give Italy problems using Robson, Ford and Joseph (and then not dropping them after the Italy game)
I’m aware I’m painting EJ as a real cartoon villain here but I really believe he is so stubborn about his selections that he wouldn’t want to risk this happening. Also protects himself from any potential accusations of underestimating them.

Re: Team for Italy

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:05 pm
by Mellsblue
JellyHead wrote:I don't see what people have against this team. Teo to run the dummy, Farrell to through the miss pass to Manu and the fastest back 3 we have to chase down the intercept. Makes sense to me.
This is one of the best constructed jokes I have ever read. It had me moving from incredulity to anger through to laughter in the space of a few seconds. Bravo.

Re: Team for Italy

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:05 pm
by twitchy
Stom wrote:
Digby wrote:I'm just going to assume you're all on the wind up. Nobody wants that side
I like to think that Beefeater is somewhere gleefully rubbing his thighs and screaming "Ooooooh" while listening to Andrew Sheridan's album on repeat.

Bring back beefy.

Re: Team for Italy

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:19 pm
by Spiffy
How did that useless midget, Jonny May, make his way into that threequarter line?

Re: Team for Italy

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:34 pm
by Mellsblue
Spiffy wrote:How did that useless midget, Jonny May, make his way into that threequarter line?
This made me lol, too.

Re: Team for Italy

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:09 pm
by Oakboy
twitchy wrote:
Stom wrote:
Digby wrote:I'm just going to assume you're all on the wind up. Nobody wants that side
I like to think that Beefeater is somewhere gleefully rubbing his thighs and screaming "Ooooooh" while listening to Andrew Sheridan's album on repeat.

Bring back beefy.
I've posted this tribute to Beefy several times but it does cheer me up:


Re: Team for Italy

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:10 pm
by p/d
I'm all for making changes to better our strength in depth this close to a WC, but FFS Jones really is a piece of work!

If I was Robson & Ford, I would walk.

Re: Team for Italy

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:17 pm
by francoisfou
Wtf is Eddie playing at? Why hasn’t he given Robson a place in the starting XV? And Shields? Has he been ripping up trees in training, cos I don’t believe he has with Wasps? On the other hand, I’m pleased Genge and Cokanasiga are starting. Finally, are we likely to see this team in the World Cup? Surely not, but with this Aussie tw@t at the helm, I guess anything is possible!

Re: Team for Italy

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:59 pm
by Banquo
Puja wrote:I've got one upside - Te'o and Tuilagi at least has the merit of taking the pressure off Manu to be the number 1 bosh man in tight and lets him run at outside shoulders where he's actually effective.

Puja
Manu has been effective imo at 12 for England, when given the ball.

Re: Team for Italy

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:10 pm
by Stom
Banquo wrote:
Puja wrote:I've got one upside - Te'o and Tuilagi at least has the merit of taking the pressure off Manu to be the number 1 bosh man in tight and lets him run at outside shoulders where he's actually effective.

Puja
Manu has been effective imo at 12 for England, when given the ball.
Oh yes, the 0.66 times per game he gets it...