RugbyRebels

Like I said before, a spat between IBA and IOC has dragged everyone into the gutter.

Of course, both boxers could've appealed to CAS and screwed the IBA completely, but chose not to. Got to wonder why. There are more questions in this than just the corruption of the IBA.

Gold for Rhys McClenaghan, irelands 1st ever gymnastics medal

Khelif gets at least a bronze, delighted

Great day

Battleboats really IS cool.


If you were asked to develop a new sport, that's like rugby, but without a ball, and with a risk of drowning, it would look like that.

Donny osmond wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 4:04 pm There are more questions in this than just the corruption of the IBA.

Such as?

Which Tyler wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 6:10 pm

Donny osmond wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 4:04 pm There are more questions in this than just the corruption of the IBA.

Such as?

Such as why they didn't appeal the IBA ban to CAS and definitively put the whole thing to bed as well as expose the IBA as the charlatans they apparently are.

Are they obliged to when they already know IBA are removed from relevance?

I guess it's a question, but I do t think it's a fair one.


In other news:

https://metro.co.uk/2024/08/03/shelly-a ... _sport_top


Looks like Shelly-Ann fell foul of a rule that's 24 hours old, about how to arrive at the stadium, and that's why she wasn't allowed to compete.

Which Tyler wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 7:52 pm Are they obliged to when they already know IBA are removed from relevance?

I guess it's a question, but I do t think it's a fair one.


In other news:

https://metro.co.uk/2024/08/03/shelly-a ... _sport_top


Looks like Shelly-Ann fell foul of a rule that's 24 hours old, about how to arrive at the stadium, and that's why she wasn't allowed to compete.

Surely shouldn't apply to anyone from the carribean?

Donny osmond wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 7:51 pm

Which Tyler wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 6:10 pm

Donny osmond wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 4:04 pm There are more questions in this than just the corruption of the IBA.

Such as?

Such as why they didn't appeal the IBA ban to CAS and definitively put the whole thing to bed as well as expose the IBA as the charlatans they apparently are.

Why would they want to go through "exposing the IBA" and go to a court of "Please prove to these old white men that you are woman enough for their standards" and risk engaging the Streisand effect, when they could just celebrate the IBA not being in charge anymore and hope that it was all put behind them? If the media hadn't decided that this all was mainstream front-page news for some reason, practically no-one would've known who they even were. I don't blame them in the slightest for not actively inviting this culture war bullshit down upon themselves in the vain hope that the CAS (who don't exactly have a great record themselves on dealing with "What is a woman?" questions when the answer isn't "White") would definitively put this to bed.

Puja

Puja wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 11:46 pmWhy would they want to go through "exposing the IBA" and go to a court of "Please prove to these old white men that you are woman enough for their standards" and risk engaging the Streisand effect, when they could just celebrate the IBA not being in charge anymore and hope that it was all put behind them? If the media hadn't decided that this all was mainstream front-page news for some reason, practically no-one would've known who they even were. I don't blame them in the slightest for not actively inviting this culture war bullshit down upon themselves in the vain hope that the CAS (who don't exactly have a great record themselves on dealing with "What is a woman?" questions when the answer isn't "White") would definitively put this to bed.

Okay, last time I got into a conversation about "this culture war bullshit" (aka standing up for women), I got banned (immediately overturned) and various other unpleasant things happened which ended up with UKHamlet saying that this topic shouldn't be discussed on the boards.

I'm just going to enjoy the rest of the Olympics, thanks lads.

Okay, I'm going to edit this down really heavily, as you're wanting out of the conversation. But* I do have to ask, how "standing up for women" requires women to sacrifice themselves for no apparent benefit**?



* And we all know, anything anyone says before the word "but" can be safely ignored.

** Other than to appease men at some unspecified point in a future that will probably never exist - and probably would never have existed if an Italian boxer hadn't decided that she didn't like it.


Given that you want out of the conversation, I will understand if you choose not to answer, but I need to get my question out there regardless

That was filthy, but I'm surprised it's a straight red.

Must have been dreaming of hockey last night.
Woke up in a slight panic that my new stick wouldn't arrive in time for my next match.

I have played hockey for 25 years now!

Go cousin

Donny osmond wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 7:51 pm

Which Tyler wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 6:10 pm

Donny osmond wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 4:04 pm There are more questions in this than just the corruption of the IBA.

Such as?

Such as why they didn't appeal the IBA ban to CAS and definitively put the whole thing to bed as well as expose the IBA as the charlatans they apparently are.

CAS and IBA aren't credible organisations, this woman has done absolutely nothing wrong.

Respect that we all enjoy the Olympics but it can be discussed rationally some other time

Which Tyler wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 8:34 am Okay, I'm going to edit this down really heavily, as you're wanting out of the conversation. But* I do have to ask, how "standing up for women" requires women to sacrifice themselves for no apparent benefit**?



* And we all know, anything anyone says before the word "but" can be safely ignored.

** Other than to appease men at some unspecified point in a future that will probably never exist - and probably would never have existed if an Italian boxer hadn't decided that she didn't like it.


Given that you want out of the conversation, I will understand if you choose not to answer, but I need to get my question out there regardless

Thanks WT, I'm happy to discuss this over DMs if you really want to, you strike me as someone it'd be quite easy to have a sensible conversation with, but not via the public boards.

paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:44 am

Donny osmond wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 7:51 pm

Which Tyler wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 6:10 pm

Such as?

Such as why they didn't appeal the IBA ban to CAS and definitively put the whole thing to bed as well as expose the IBA as the charlatans they apparently are.

CAS and IBA aren't credible organisations, this woman has done absolutely nothing wrong.

Respect that we all enjoy the Olympics but it can be discussed rationally some other time

(it's not the athletes I have a problem with either)

Having said 'lets just enjoy the rest of the games' I'm actually going to miss it all today as I'm driving the eldest to her brass band comp, but I'll be silently hoping for UK glory, (and Irish, I suppose) and that Alcaraz humps Djokovic

Cheers everyone

Congratulations India - fully deserved backs-against-the-wall win

Donny osmond wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:59 am Thanks WT, I'm happy to discuss this over DMs if you really want to, you strike me as someone it'd be quite easy to have a sensible conversation with, but not via the public boards.

Appreciated, but I'm a firm believer that if something can't be said publicly, it shouldn't be said.
Other opinions are available.

However, I think the issue is emotive enough, and broad enough that it probably needs a thread of it's own, that should take place away from the heightened emotions of live sport.

Donny osmond wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 10:02 am and that Alcaraz humps Djokovic

And so say all of us.

Which Tyler wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 10:38 am

Donny osmond wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:59 am Thanks WT, I'm happy to discuss this over DMs if you really want to, you strike me as someone it'd be quite easy to have a sensible conversation with, but not via the public boards.

Appreciated, but I'm a firm believer that if something can't be said publicly, it shouldn't be said.
Other opinions are available.

However, I think the issue is emotive enough, and broad enough that it probably needs a thread of it's own, that should take place away from the heightened emotions of live sport.

Donny osmond wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 10:02 am and that Alcaraz humps Djokovic

And so say all of us.

oops

paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:41 am Go cousin

whats the view on Wiffen competing for NI in the Commonealths?

Which Tyler wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 10:38 am

Donny osmond wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:59 am Thanks WT, I'm happy to discuss this over DMs if you really want to, you strike me as someone it'd be quite easy to have a sensible conversation with, but not via the public boards.

Appreciated, but I'm a firm believer that if something can't be said publicly, it shouldn't be said.
Other opinions are available.

However, I think the issue is emotive enough, and broad enough that it probably needs a thread of it's own, that should take place away from the heightened emotions of live sport.

Donny osmond wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 10:02 am and that Alcaraz humps Djokovic

And so say all of us.

Completely agree about saying things in public, but otoh I don't want to walk that path again and have been warned off talking about this subject, so I'm afraid that's not going to happen, sorry.