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Oakboy wrote:I thought Sinckler and Lawes had storming games too. After 20 I would have given Sinckler MoM. In the last 20 I thought the replacements did well though it took Kruiz a good 10 minutes to get up to pace.

What a cracking win.
:D even after that you find time to have a dig at Kruis
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p/d wrote:
Spiffy wrote:
It is true that NZ were far from their best. But that was because England bullied them off the park right from the get go and did not let then get a foothold in the game. There was nothing NZ could do about it. That was a pretty comprehensive humping not reflected in the score line.
Spot on Spiffy. They could not live with England today.
Complete rugby performance
Yep. NZ played as well as they were allowed to.
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Stats quite interesting. NZ made a ton of yards, but conceded a lot of pens. Our discipline was excellent, as was our work rate in defence- missed a fair few first up tackles, but worked well for each other.

What I really liked was players across the park making momentum changing interventions.
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p/d wrote:
Oakboy wrote:I thought Sinckler and Lawes had storming games too. After 20 I would have given Sinckler MoM. In the last 20 I thought the replacements did well though it took Kruiz a good 10 minutes to get up to pace.

What a cracking win.
:D even after that you find time to have a dig at Kruis
Were you not worried at that point around our 22? I would have much preferred Lawes's tackling then.
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England only conceeded 6 penalties all game, whereas earlier this year they'd conceed that many in ten minutes of rugby. Easier to do when you're always going forwards, whether in defence of attack but the change is startling and can't all be down to adding Curry to the backrow.
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Banquo wrote:Stats quite interesting. NZ made a ton of yards, but conceded a lot of pens. Our discipline was excellent, as was our work rate in defence- missed a fair few first up tackles, but worked well for each other.

What I really liked was players across the park making momentum changing interventions.
+1
Although May was clearly not right he was making important tackles and shepherding well. So many players right at the top of their game. Superb.
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Oakboy wrote:
p/d wrote:
Oakboy wrote:I thought Sinckler and Lawes had storming games too. After 20 I would have given Sinckler MoM. In the last 20 I thought the replacements did well though it took Kruiz a good 10 minutes to get up to pace.

What a cracking win.
:D even after that you find time to have a dig at Kruis
Were you not worried at that point around our 22? I would have much preferred Lawes's tackling then.
Lawes was probably spent. So, line our fiasco aside, was happy enough. Though panicked a tad when a clearly unfit May was replaced
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switchskier wrote:England only conceeded 6 penalties all game, whereas earlier this year they'd conceed that many in ten minutes of rugby. Easier to do when you're always going forwards, whether in defence of attack but the change is startling and can't all be down to adding Curry to the backrow.
Having Cole come on for the final quarter only probably has helped
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What a performance from the whole pack. Billy the only one not operating at full throttle and he wasn't bad either.
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Even BOD eulogising about Farrell.
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BOD calling out Faz as well. It must be us.
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Beasties wrote:What a performance from the whole pack. Billy the only one not operating at full throttle and he wasn't bad either.
I though he had an excellent game- carried a huge number of times, made a lot of tackles and slowed a lot of ball.
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I actually thought Faz deserved a 8 or 9 out of 10 for his guts but prob more like a 7 overall, and I'm not a fan. What grieves me is that none of them can bring themselves to praise Ford.
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Farrell deserves a 10 for his acting alone.
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twitchy wrote:Image
And that was just the start of the containment act! :)
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Beasties wrote:I actually thought Faz deserved a 8 or 9 out of 10 for his guts but prob more like a 7 overall, and I'm not a fan. What grieves me is that none of them can bring themselves to praise Ford.
Yeah.. George Ford is like the kid who does evertything perfectly for his parent's attention but they only notice what his brother does.

Rewatching the last 20 on plus 1. Bit less tense now.
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Which Tyler wrote:
twitchy wrote:Image
And that was just the start of the containment act! :)
Like geese to the slaughter
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J Dory wrote:Farrell deserves a 10 for his acting alone.
-10 to big Sam though. Don’t give em the chance.
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J Dory wrote:Farrell deserves a 10 for his acting alone.
SCW would nominate him for a BAFTA.
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That’ll do England, that’ll do. Heart rate returning to normal.

Tired of yelling at Ben youngs. Curry, underhill and itoje joint Mom’s for me, just unbelievable tackling.

Jonny May had a standing start against an already running barret, thought he might accelerate a bit better but that’s the main reason he was caught
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Gloskarlos wrote:That’ll do England, that’ll do. Heart rate returning to normal.

Tired of yelling at Ben youngs. Curry, underhill and itoje joint Mom’s for me, just unbelievable tackling.

Jonny May had a standing start against an already running barret, thought he might accelerate a bit better but that’s the main reason he was caught
That and confidence in the hammy
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It's the smothering defense - over the past calendar year and a bit, this linespeed, cutting off the width with a shooter looking for big hit up the middle combined with fitness, awareness, technique and power in the tackles. It really is something when we effectivley nilled the All Blacks apart from a lineout disaster.

I'm not sure why Faz was allowed to stay on? He dropped the shoulder into a tackle when he was hobbling about.

May has lost a yard with his injury. He is good in the air though.

I'm not sure where this extra power in the tackle and carry has come from - the modern description is dominant? But we definitely won that area today.
Johnno used to say "win the collisions".
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Banquo wrote:
Beasties wrote:What a performance from the whole pack. Billy the only one not operating at full throttle and he wasn't bad either.
I though he had an excellent game- carried a huge number of times, made a lot of tackles and slowed a lot of ball.
He did look more himself today.

Manu's face was a picture whenever the camera caught him. Huge grin, really enjoying himself, real warrior stuff.
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Does any one know where I can download the game in full?
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