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Which Tyler wrote:

Banquo wrote: Nigel Adams has resigned you are right

Think however, Govt will fall if she does a deal with Corbyn I reckon- DUP will pull support, and the ERG are so mad they wouldn't care about an election.

TIG/Change folks won't have long in Parliament imo

We're editting over each other.
He's resigning the government whip, which I think is the same as the Tory whip, but it might be technically different.

May's not interested in doing a deal with Corbyn, just trying to set him up as being responsible for her own failures. Corbyn will demand things she's unwilling to consider, and possibly even unwilling to hear. It's a ploy to kick the can down the road, and to damage the opposition, and give her supporters a scale goat they're desperate to blame for everything anyway.

I love the idea of a scale goat

Its ambiguous on Adams, I think he is a government whip as well as a Minister, and that's what I think he has resigned from.

Yes- suspect May will saying, well he wouldn't tell his MPs to vote for WA + Something soft-brexit, so I have no choice but to bring my deal back, and if you don't vote for that, no deal it is...and that's his fault...

Banquo wrote: I love the idea of a scale goat

Goats get psoriasis too you know!

Which Tyler wrote:

Banquo wrote: I love the idea of a scale goat

Goats get psoriasis too you know!

I was thinking of a small one

Though we could have a series of indicative goats...

Banquo wrote:

Which Tyler wrote:

Banquo wrote: I love the idea of a scale goat

Goats get psoriasis too you know!

I was thinking of a small one

Though we could have a series of indicative goats...

IDS on Corbyn "A harsh Marxist whose only goal in life is to do ireperable harm to this country" "The worst thing about this is that she has legitimised him as a politician"

Quotes may be slightly inaccurate, I was offline when that interview started broadcasting.


I don't remember this much (open) hostility and disrespect within the commons ever; and it's all one-sided. It's almost like they've seen the muder of Jo Cox, and a plausible plot to assassinate Rosie Cooper and decided to up the hate speech against Labour!

Still hard to call whether it's the Labour party or the Tories who're going to split over this, and whether one will trigger the other

Hard to see how they don't unless huge numbers put personal ambition above their actual beliefs. Corbyn deciding any agreement with May wouldn't need a second referendum is just more outstanding work on his part, but there's no way his view on European imperialism and the role of Nato is shared outside the clinically insane

Digby wrote:Still hard to call whether it's the Labour party or the Tories who're going to split over this, and whether one will trigger the other

Both, but ultimately, the left are always far more likely to self-destruct

Which Tyler wrote:

Digby wrote:Still hard to call whether it's the Labour party or the Tories who're going to split over this, and whether one will trigger the other

Both, but ultimately, the left are always far more likely to self-destruct

Meh, the right have already wiped more money of the national economy than we pay into the EU, frankly they've wiped off more than their bus falsely claimed we pay into the EU and they're only just getting started. And we must be up to circa £5 billion in government, civil service and consultancy spend on brexit so far (though if you want a laugh write your MP and see what answer they fabricate)

I just cannot see how the bigger part of the Tory party, certainly the parliamentary party if not the increasingly UKIP member base, sticks with the right claiming it's somehow for the greater good

Which Tyler wrote:

Banquo wrote:

Which Tyler wrote: Goats get psoriasis too you know!

I was thinking of a small one

Though we could have a series of indicative goats...

IDS on Corbyn "A harsh Marxist whose only goal in life is to do ireperable harm to this country" "The worst thing about this is that she has legitimised him as a politician"

Quotes may be slightly inaccurate, I was offline when that interview started broadcasting.


I don't remember this much (open) hostility and disrespect within the commons ever; and it's all one-sided. It's almost like they've seen the muder of Jo Cox, and a plausible plot to assassinate Rosie Cooper and decided to up the hate speech against Labour!

One sided?!?!
Good job McDonnell has never said that McVey should be lynched whilst calling for ‘direct action’ or that, only this week, Beckett implies that May is mentally ill by saying that shewneeded a consultation with a doctor.
What IDS said is standard fare from all sides. You only have to watch a few PMQ’s, debates in the chamber or committee hearings to know that.
Not that I agree with it, but politics is a bruising business.
Away from the Commons, Corbyn’s accolites are pretty efficient at following McDonnell’s advice on direct action. Be it bricks through constituency office windows, intimidating letters under parliamentary office doors or at elections to Labour Party committees.

Written in anger, not allowed to delete. Not worth it.

We need to get the petition shared more. It can still have an effect. We just need 18 million signatures. 1/3rd of the way there.

How? Let's do it!

The Russians?

another minister has quit. No doubt protecting his seat as it were. Not sure how he reconciles the sentences in his statement.



Chris Heaton-Harris has been in charge of preparations for a no-deal exit.

In his resignation letter, he says these are "well-advanced". However, he says the PM's desire not to leave the UK without a deal has made "his job irrelevant".

He said the UK should have left the EU on 29 March and he cannot support any further delay to Brexit.

Banquo wrote:another minister has quit. No doubt protecting his seat as it were. Not sure how he reconciles the sentences in his statement.



Chris Heaton-Harris has been in charge of preparations for a no-deal exit.

In his resignation letter, he says these are "well-advanced". However, he says the PM's desire not to leave the UK without a deal has made "his job irrelevant".

He said the UK should have left the EU on 29 March and he cannot support any further delay to Brexit.

You are ready, then!

Just jump.

Banquo wrote:another minister has quit. No doubt protecting his seat as it were. Not sure how he reconciles the sentences in his statement.

So her majority is down to -1, -2 if a conservative doesn't win tomorrow's by-election

Mass debating ongoing over a bill (Cooper-Letwin-Benn, the back-bench-bunch) that would require the PM to seek an extension to Article 50, and rule out No Deal Brexit.
On both counts, this is a bit of goal-post relocation.
Will May ever hit the back of the net ?

Someone called Chris reported:
'The House of Commons printer has broken down so they can't print the Cooper Bill. So now MPs are not sure what they are now debating..'
Sure they can just make it up as they go along.

Just in and tuning in?

Looks like Cash and Eustace don't like the result of the last vote, and want to kill the next one.

Fancy that, trying to overturn the result not a democratic vote is fine when it's them.

Which Tyler wrote:

Banquo wrote:another minister has quit. No doubt protecting his seat as it were. Not sure how he reconciles the sentences in his statement.

So her majority is down to -1, -2 if a conservative doesn't win tomorrow's by-election

No they I think remain Tory mps. They’ve just resigned from govt

Banquo wrote:

Which Tyler wrote:

Banquo wrote:another minister has quit. No doubt protecting his seat as it were. Not sure how he reconciles the sentences in his statement.

So her majority is down to -1, -2 if a conservative doesn't win tomorrow's by-election

No they I think remain Tory mps. They’ve just resigned from govt

Yup, looks that way

Hammond publicly backs a free vote for MPs. I wonder just how long the odds must be of him becoming the next Tory leader? You'd almost certainly be pissing £1 away at 1000000-1

Which Tyler wrote:Just in and tuning in?

Looks like Cash and Eustace don't like the result of the last vote, and want to kill the next one.

Fancy that, trying to overturn the result not a democratic vote is fine when it's them.

Real shame that Cash and a few of the other dinosaurs weren't the front facing Brexiteers during the referendum campaign. There's a good reason why those lunatics were kept out of the spotlight.

The pro brexit Lords are (for now) taking one hell of a beating so far. They'd do better having another set of water pipes burst than continue to try and talk out the process

Digby wrote:The pro brexit Lords are (for now) taking one hell of a beating so far. They'd do better having another set of water pipes burst than continue to try and talk out the process

I'm quite impressed the commons was able to kick the can even further down the road in a lot less time than May.

They should have moved the commons onto a series of preferential votes not discrete ones. There has to be a consequence presented to making and indeed not making a decision

Digby wrote:They should have moved the commons onto a series of preferential votes not discrete ones. There has to be a consequence presented to making and indeed not making a decision

everyone wants it to be someone elses finger on whatever trigger is or isnt pulled

Banquo wrote:

Digby wrote:They should have moved the commons onto a series of preferential votes not discrete ones. There has to be a consequence presented to making and indeed not making a decision

everyone wants it to be someone elses finger on whatever trigger is or isnt pulled

I'm happy to make the decision myself