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Mikey Brown wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2024 11:22 pma compassionate human.
You just defined "Woke"
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Puja wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:40 am
Mikey Brown wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 8:42 am
Puja wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 12:44 am
Slightly spoiled by him finishing with "You see what I did there,"

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See, I quite liked him acknowledging the ridiculous pantomime they have to take part in. He actually seems like a real human.

It’s good for social media but the whole UFC stand-off, trash-talk element of politics is generally a bit embarrassing. Same with the “weird” thing, it’s pretty cringe at this point but seems to be doing the job.

I think both Trump and Vance might struggle with the ‘dad energy’ that he’s bringing to it.
I think you're right on the Dad energy. He's almost aggressively normal and relatable, which is a great position to be in to attack Trump and Vance as being utter weirdos who are out of touch with American priorities. It also makes it very difficult for their attack lines of him being a "dangerous radical leftist" to stick.

At best, he might be normalising radical socialist policies like "not letting children starve" and "requiring a full time job to pay enough to live on" and "health care shouldn't bankrupt people" for the American people - if Joe Regular Dad Energy believes in them, maybe they aren't a woke communist plot to destroy America?

I am cautiously optimistic, for once.

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The normality is refreshing, maybe a lot of Americans will have this feeling. Only 90 days for reps to spin this.
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Haven't seen one of these Trump derangement supercuts in a while. I assumed the recent Hannibal Lecter thing was a one off, but apparently he's been rambling about this for years.



On one hand it seems like he must be mixing the name up with somebody else, but he does seem to know who the character is and that it's a work of fiction. Surreal.
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He is a broken fucking record.
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I like this Walz guy. He just seems…normal.
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FFS. Why did he even drop out if he had this up his sleeve the whole time.



Joe weaponising his own senility and just rolling around in the mud with the Republican shit-slingers is so fucking funny.
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Kamala Harris now running +3% over Trump with a steady, day-by-day climb. I'm daring to be hopeful...

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Mikey Brown wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 12:32 am FFS. Why did he even drop out if he had this up his sleeve the whole time.



Joe weaponising his own senility and just rolling around in the mud with the Republican shit-slingers is so fucking funny.
Until a few months ago I would never have believed this phrase could exist. :shock:
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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fox ... 51855.html
"And I heard the scientists say the other day that when a man votes for a woman, he actually transitions into a woman."
Must be annoying for all the trans women out there who spent years/decades and,10s/100s of thousands, and often sacrificing their mental health (hopefully temporarily) on the process, to now find out that all they needed to do was find a woman running for office, and vote for them.
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Which Tyler wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 10:40 am https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fox ... 51855.html
"And I heard the scientists say the other day that when a man votes for a woman, he actually transitions into a woman."
Must be annoying for all the trans women out there who spent years/decades and,10s/100s of thousands, and often sacrificing their mental health (hopefully temporarily) on the process, to now find out that all they needed to do was find a woman running for office, and vote for them.
As well as being totally mad, these are obviously the words of a man who would never even consider voting for a woman.
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Son of Mathonwy wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 9:36 am
Mikey Brown wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 12:32 am FFS. Why did he even drop out if he had this up his sleeve the whole time.



Joe weaponising his own senility and just rolling around in the mud with the Republican shit-slingers is so fucking funny.
Until a few months ago I would never have believed this phrase could exist. :shock:
He has time to indulge day drinking now. He could run vital interference for the campaign by shining a laser dot in front of the Orange Pussy Cat to chase aimlessly.
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Mikey Brown wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 8:42 am Same with the “weird” thing, it’s pretty cringe at this point but seems to be doing the job.
It works because it's entirely about how divorced from observable reality a significant amount of "conservative" and Republican Party policy has been, and how much of it actually not only goes against the interests of voters, but also just how fucking unhinged it is.

You've got ideological shit like:
The Supreme Court stacked with conservatives and openly corrupt grifters giving the US President total immunity from prosecution from any crime, as long as he says "nuh-uh, totally official."
Trump shouting about closing down the Department of Education.
The Ohio GOP passing a bill that allows for girls (as in FUCKING CHILDREN) to have their genitals inspected before taking part in sports.

Like, normal people don't sit around frothing at the mouth while they seethe over other people's genitals. What kind of a fucking sex freak would demand young women - minors, I remind you - to show some grown-ass adult their reproductive organs?

It also shines a light on mean-spirited Scrooge shit like ending free school lunches being a priority for their platform, defunding public libraries, or cutting infrastructure like public transit and waterworks.

How does that shit actually benefit anyone? How does it improve anyone's quality of life?

When the Republican platform and policies are then reframed and redefined as being weird, it makes the Republicans even more unattractive to voters. When you have Trump ranting about how Kamala Harris wanting everyone to have health coverage as if it's anything other than cool and good, or Nancy Mace melting down over being called out for being a racist while doing a racism on CNN, it just re-enforces that label.
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cashead wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 5:20 am
Mikey Brown wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 8:42 am Same with the “weird” thing, it’s pretty cringe at this point but seems to be doing the job.
It works because it's entirely about how divorced from observable reality a significant amount of "conservative" and Republican Party policy has been from observable reality, and how much of it actually not only goes against the interests of voters, but also just how fucking unhinged it is.

You've got ideological shit like:
The Supreme Court stacked with conservatives and openly corrupt grifters giving the US President total immunity from prosecution from any crime, as long as he says "nuh-uh, totally official."
Trump shouting about closing down the Department of Education.
The Ohio GOP passing a bill that allows for girls (as in FUCKING CHILDREN) to have their genitals inspected before taking part in sports.

Like, normal people don't sit around frothing at the mouth while they seethe over other people's genitals. What kind of a fucking sex freak would demand young women - minors, I remind you - to show some grown-ass adult their reproductive organs?

It also shines a light on mean-spirited Scrooge shit like ending free school lunches being a priority for their platform, defunding public libraries, or cutting infrastructure like public transit and waterworks.

How does that shit actually benefit anyone? How does it improve anyone's quality of life?

When the Republican platform and policies are then reframed and redefined as being weird, it makes the Republicans even more unattractive to voters. When you have Trump ranting about how Kamala Harris wanting everyone to have health coverage as if it's anything other than cool and good, or Nancy Mace melting down over being called out for being a racist while doing a racism on CNN, it just re-enforces that label.
You could pretty much substitute NAT/ACT/NZFIRST for REPUBLICAN here and still carry water.
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morepork wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 5:27 pm
cashead wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 5:20 am
Mikey Brown wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 8:42 am Same with the “weird” thing, it’s pretty cringe at this point but seems to be doing the job.
It works because it's entirely about how divorced from observable reality a significant amount of "conservative" and Republican Party policy has been from observable reality, and how much of it actually not only goes against the interests of voters, but also just how fucking unhinged it is.

You've got ideological shit like:
The Supreme Court stacked with conservatives and openly corrupt grifters giving the US President total immunity from prosecution from any crime, as long as he says "nuh-uh, totally official."
Trump shouting about closing down the Department of Education.
The Ohio GOP passing a bill that allows for girls (as in FUCKING CHILDREN) to have their genitals inspected before taking part in sports.

Like, normal people don't sit around frothing at the mouth while they seethe over other people's genitals. What kind of a fucking sex freak would demand young women - minors, I remind you - to show some grown-ass adult their reproductive organs?

It also shines a light on mean-spirited Scrooge shit like ending free school lunches being a priority for their platform, defunding public libraries, or cutting infrastructure like public transit and waterworks.

How does that shit actually benefit anyone? How does it improve anyone's quality of life?

When the Republican platform and policies are then reframed and redefined as being weird, it makes the Republicans even more unattractive to voters. When you have Trump ranting about how Kamala Harris wanting everyone to have health coverage as if it's anything other than cool and good, or Nancy Mace melting down over being called out for being a racist while doing a racism on CNN, it just re-enforces that label.
You could pretty much substitute NAT/ACT/NZFIRST for REPUBLICAN here and still carry water.
God yes, this fucking government. Like relaxing speed limits around schools? Kids are going to fucking die. Their policies are fucking mental, and having client journalists like the useless gibbering shitgibbons at the NZ Herald or Stuff's resident tory bootlicker Andrea Vance doesn't help.
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cashead wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 9:54 pm
morepork wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 5:27 pm
cashead wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 5:20 am

It works because it's entirely about how divorced from observable reality a significant amount of "conservative" and Republican Party policy has been from observable reality, and how much of it actually not only goes against the interests of voters, but also just how fucking unhinged it is.

You've got ideological shit like:
The Supreme Court stacked with conservatives and openly corrupt grifters giving the US President total immunity from prosecution from any crime, as long as he says "nuh-uh, totally official."
Trump shouting about closing down the Department of Education.
The Ohio GOP passing a bill that allows for girls (as in FUCKING CHILDREN) to have their genitals inspected before taking part in sports.

Like, normal people don't sit around frothing at the mouth while they seethe over other people's genitals. What kind of a fucking sex freak would demand young women - minors, I remind you - to show some grown-ass adult their reproductive organs?

It also shines a light on mean-spirited Scrooge shit like ending free school lunches being a priority for their platform, defunding public libraries, or cutting infrastructure like public transit and waterworks.

How does that shit actually benefit anyone? How does it improve anyone's quality of life?

When the Republican platform and policies are then reframed and redefined as being weird, it makes the Republicans even more unattractive to voters. When you have Trump ranting about how Kamala Harris wanting everyone to have health coverage as if it's anything other than cool and good, or Nancy Mace melting down over being called out for being a racist while doing a racism on CNN, it just re-enforces that label.
You could pretty much substitute NAT/ACT/NZFIRST for REPUBLICAN here and still carry water.
God yes, this fucking government. Like relaxing speed limits around schools? Kids are going to fucking die. Their policies are fucking mental, and having client journalists like the useless gibbering shitgibbons at the NZ Herald or Stuff's resident tory bootlicker Andrea Vance doesn't help.
Luxor is the potato to Liz Truss’s lettuce. They are about to collapse public health. If you have a heart attack in the Hokianga, best call Taurangi Vice. Just an absolute clusterfuck that everyone but them can see coming.

You are an educator there yes? What news from the Riddermark on that front?
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morepork wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 10:14 pm
cashead wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 9:54 pm
morepork wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 5:27 pm

You could pretty much substitute NAT/ACT/NZFIRST for REPUBLICAN here and still carry water.
God yes, this fucking government. Like relaxing speed limits around schools? Kids are going to fucking die. Their policies are fucking mental, and having client journalists like the useless gibbering shitgibbons at the NZ Herald or Stuff's resident tory bootlicker Andrea Vance doesn't help.
Luxor is the potato to Liz Truss’s lettuce. They are about to collapse public health. If you have a heart attack in the Hokianga, best call Taurangi Vice. Just an absolute clusterfuck that everyone but them can see coming.

You are an educator there yes? What news from the Riddermark on that front?
Charter schools are coming back, with Seymour sneaking shit into the legislation to try to encourage current extant schools and kuras to transition to charters. Of course, he claimed "ooooh, they'll be under more scrutiny and the MOE will be all over them like a rash" and other such bullshit, but because Seymour is a cunt and that's all he'll ever be, of course those were lies.

Oh, and the claim that only 22% of kids are meeting numeracy requirements made by the empty suit was bullshit, of course. The numbers were a small sample size of kids that weren't meeting the threshold for a curriculum that they hadn't been taught under. In other words, "only 22% of kids know stuff they haven't been taught yet."

The Ministry has been perpetually restructuring the NCEA and we still haven't heard dick about Levels 2 and 3 - their communication philosophy seems to be "guess what? Nothing! Tee hee!" Last year, we got the Level 2 standards leaked to us at the subject conference in Dunedin, and it was, like, clearly written by people who had no idea what the subject was.

The Aotearoa Histories curriculum was written under the previous Labour government, and we'd been working towards that, but now I'm genuinely worried if it'll even be implemented because "lulz too woke" since it puts more focus on pre-contact Maori and Pasifika history (one of the key writers has her doctorate in Samoan history - one of the best bosses I've ever had too).

English is a fucking worry as well, seeing as how the text list was written by people who teach at schools that are predominantly white. More Shakespeare! More Beowulf! Less Maaari and Pacific literature! Get rid of that woke shit! Of course, no mention of Asian literature, but that's to be expected.

Oh, and on Friday, they announced a racist TERF as the Race Relations Commissioner.

Edit: Just remembered - the literacy and numeracy CAA that'll be happening at the end of next month? Total shit show last year. The NZQA hosted the exams, and a shitload of Year 10 kids weren't able to access the exams. Hahaha, whoops. And then a couple of months later, a similar proportion of Year 11 girls nationwide couldn't access their digital L1 English exams. Hahahahaha, whoopsie-doodle!

How do you reckon it'll go this time around, after fuckloads of staff have been cut from backroom roles at the Ministry and NZQA?
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That is fucking grim. Like, Florida grim. A template based on a facsimile of US small government shit. Finishing what Roger Douglas started. Jesus Christ. I’m not liking the white washing of cultural identity at all. Again, like the US. Over the last 10 years or so of going back home it has been noticeable how much more confident the kids are in engaging Te Reo. I really hope that doesn’t get lost. What a complete mess.
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Can anyone explain to me just why Republicans seem to think that carrying around a sample jars of semen is A] owning the lib.s and B] countering the accusation that they're weird and creepy?


I'm at a complete loss as to WTF
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Which Tyler wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 6:57 pm Can anyone explain to me just why Republicans seem to think that carrying around a sample jars of semen is A] owning the lib.s and B] countering the accusation that they're weird and creepy?


I'm at a complete loss as to WTF
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You heard me.

As far as I can tell, it's similar to the tampon earrings (again, not in the slightest bit weird/creepy - honest). The jozz is to mock anyone with fertility issues, whilst the tampon is to make the point that providing sanitary products to school-aged females is a bad thing, to be mocked.

Both are attacks against Waltz, and a reaction to him calling them weird.

Erm...

Yeah...

That'll show 'em.
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DNC 2024 showing shades of 1968 with Gaza front and centre. Fuck the virility jizz merchandise, this is what has to be dealt with now.
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Should it be obvious without looking what the proposed solution for that is? It’s not just continuing to suck Israel’s dick?
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Mikey Brown wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 7:19 am Should it be obvious without looking what the proposed solution for that is? It’s not just continuing to suck Israel’s dick?
I was going to say that the US is like a besotted parent of a psychopathic child, unable to do the right thing. But that sounds like an excuse. There is no excuse. The US knows exactly what it's doing - actively supporting a genocide. No, it's more than that, the UK is actively supporting a genocide, what the US is doing is making the genocide possible. Without the US's support, it would not be happening. (What kind of sick fuck increases military aid when a genocide starts?) Either they want it to happen (which is certainly true of some americans) or they do not give one shit about it as long as it's what the Israelis want. I wonder if they ever wake up at night with the realization that Gazans are people? If so, they forget about it by morning.

I don't see it changing. The moral logic is all there. If you're enabling a genocider, the very first thing you do is stop. It shouldn't require any thought or political calculation.
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Cops who shot Breanna Taylor not at fault.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/breonna-ta ... r-charges/

What do you even say at this point?
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Mikey Brown wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2024 7:05 pm Cops who shot Breanna Taylor not at fault.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/breonna-ta ... r-charges/

What do you even say at this point?
It's every* American's right to stand your ground and defend yourself with firearms.

*some exclusions may apply.

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