RugbyRebels

what is wrong ?

Touching the corner flag doesn't mean shit.

In a post you deleted, you claimed he was in touch as well. He wasn't. It was a try all day.

yep, I've deleted it to let you answer first. as you can see even in this picture the ball is touching the touchline.

Before going repetitive about that, I remind you that Novès said the ref admitted his mistake about it..

Lizard wrote: Fiji:
3. Needs to better be able to retain and use its wealth of player talent

France:
3. Have discovered Fiji

World Rugby need to get a grip on this. I've read a couple of pieces on this now and it's not pretty. Unregulated agents scouring the schools offering school scholarships or academy places and then disowning them once the player lands in the foreign country and they've been paid. Whilst the island boy realises that his lucrative contract isn't quite so lucrative when the cost of living in his new country is so high compared to home. Stories of French clubs asking for nothing other than physical freaks. On the other side, the players are under huge pressure from families and even whole villages at home to send back cash. More stories of players on six figure salaries living in empty homes because all money being buying food is being sent home. There was an awful piece on a Fijian player plying his trade in France committing suicide because he was under so much financial pressure from home and had no support network. He was playing in the third/fourth tier would hardly be earning much.

Mellsblue wrote:

Lizard wrote: Fiji:
3. Needs to better be able to retain and use its wealth of player talent

France:
3. Have discovered Fiji

World Rugby need to get a grip on this. I've read a couple of pieces on this now and it's not pretty. Unregulated agents scouring the schools offering school scholarships or academy places and then disowning them once the player lands in the foreign country and they've been paid. Whilst the island boy realises that his lucrative contract isn't quite so lucrative when the cost of living in his new country is so high compared to home. Stories of French clubs asking for nothing other than physical freaks. On the other side, the players are under huge pressure from families and even whole villages at home to send back cash. More stories of players on six figure salaries living in empty homes because all money being buying food is being sent home. There was an awful piece on a Fijian player plying his trade in France committing suicide because he was under so much financial pressure from home and had no support network. He was playing in the third/fourth tier would hardly be earning much.

What can they do? a worldwide register of agents? I don't really see that working.

Eugene Wrayburn wrote:

Mellsblue wrote:

Lizard wrote: Fiji:
3. Needs to better be able to retain and use its wealth of player talent

France:
3. Have discovered Fiji

World Rugby need to get a grip on this. I've read a couple of pieces on this now and it's not pretty. Unregulated agents scouring the schools offering school scholarships or academy places and then disowning them once the player lands in the foreign country and they've been paid. Whilst the island boy realises that his lucrative contract isn't quite so lucrative when the cost of living in his new country is so high compared to home. Stories of French clubs asking for nothing other than physical freaks. On the other side, the players are under huge pressure from families and even whole villages at home to send back cash. More stories of players on six figure salaries living in empty homes because all money being buying food is being sent home. There was an awful piece on a Fijian player plying his trade in France committing suicide because he was under so much financial pressure from home and had no support network. He was playing in the third/fourth tier would hardly be earning much.

What can they do? a worldwide register of agents? I don't really see that working.

Don't FIFA do just that? Can't see why they couldn't do it.

Mellsblue wrote:

Eugene Wrayburn wrote:

Mellsblue wrote: World Rugby need to get a grip on this. I've read a couple of pieces on this now and it's not pretty. Unregulated agents scouring the schools offering school scholarships or academy places and then disowning them once the player lands in the foreign country and they've been paid. Whilst the island boy realises that his lucrative contract isn't quite so lucrative when the cost of living in his new country is so high compared to home. Stories of French clubs asking for nothing other than physical freaks. On the other side, the players are under huge pressure from families and even whole villages at home to send back cash. More stories of players on six figure salaries living in empty homes because all money being buying food is being sent home. There was an awful piece on a Fijian player plying his trade in France committing suicide because he was under so much financial pressure from home and had no support network. He was playing in the third/fourth tier would hardly be earning much.

What can they do? a worldwide register of agents? I don't really see that working.

Don't FIFA do just that? Can't see why they couldn't do it.

And how successful have FIFA been in enforcing it?

the reason it's so difficult is determining what an agent is and actually restricting them. The sort of people who are abandoning young Fijians in the French lower divisions aren't going to give a monkey's whether they are tecnically permitted to act as an agent and aren't looking to land the next Caucaunibuca.

Eugene Wrayburn wrote:

Mellsblue wrote:

Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
What can they do? a worldwide register of agents? I don't really see that working.

Don't FIFA do just that? Can't see why they couldn't do it.

And how successful have FIFA been in enforcing it?

the reason it's so difficult is determining what an agent is and actually restricting them. The sort of people who are abandoning young Fijians in the French lower divisions aren't going to give a monkey's whether they are tecnically permitted to act as an agent and aren't looking to land the next Caucaunibuca.

No idea but failure to enforce isn't really a reason not to do it. Especially when a body as disfunctional as FIFA are the example.
I'd imagine the key would be to enforce via the clubs rather than agent themselves.

Mellsblue wrote:

Eugene Wrayburn wrote:

Mellsblue wrote: Don't FIFA do just that? Can't see why they couldn't do it.

And how successful have FIFA been in enforcing it?

the reason it's so difficult is determining what an agent is and actually restricting them. The sort of people who are abandoning young Fijians in the French lower divisions aren't going to give a monkey's whether they are tecnically permitted to act as an agent and aren't looking to land the next Caucaunibuca.

No idea but failure to enforce isn't really a reason not to do it. Especially when a body as disfunctional as FIFA are the example.
I'd imagine the key would be to enforce via the clubs rather than agent themselves.

Good luck in drafting that enforceable rule. Good luck in regulating every single relationship so that you can distinguish between agent, and manager and friend and uncle and cousin.

Eugene Wrayburn wrote:

Mellsblue wrote:

Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
And how successful have FIFA been in enforcing it?

the reason it's so difficult is determining what an agent is and actually restricting them. The sort of people who are abandoning young Fijians in the French lower divisions aren't going to give a monkey's whether they are tecnically permitted to act as an agent and aren't looking to land the next Caucaunibuca.

No idea but failure to enforce isn't really a reason not to do it. Especially when a body as disfunctional as FIFA are the example.
I'd imagine the key would be to enforce via the clubs rather than agent themselves.

Good luck in drafting that enforceable rule. Good luck in regulating every single relationship so that you can distinguish between agent, and manager and friend and uncle and cousin.

Probably best to leave it as is, then.

I've no idea about the legalities of it all as they really don't interest me. You seem to be very passionate about it so here's the link to FIFA's regulations:
http://m.fifa.com/governance/intermediaries/index.html