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[16th man]

In who's mind is Tom Croft worth £277,000 of your cap?

[Raggs]

If he's actually been chosen and playing? Definitely. Takes a lot of lineouts, makes plenty of meters and a good number of tackles, with a fair chance to score.

Otherwise no...

[Raggs]

Chatting with the developer, actually trying to make it harder to pick a good team .

[Scrumhead]

Can you ask him to move Saili to Quins?

Also not sure why Rhodes is down as a flanker but isn't also listed a lock, when Hughes, who AFAIK has never played lock is?

[bitts]

Can you ask him to move Saili to Quins?

Also not sure why Rhodes is down as a flanker but isn't also listed a lock, when Hughes, who AFAIK has never played lock is?

That is an odd one. I imagine if they change now his salary will go up.

Regarding Croft: I wonder if some of the salaries reflect public perception rather than likelihood to do well in this game.

Faz may well be a better player than Gopperth, but he's not going to get as many points over the regular prem season. Similarly I imagine someone like Rhodes is going to be more score more than Robshaw.

[Scrumhead]

Yeah - that's what I meant re. trying to gauge which players will be statistically good. Someone like Croft (if he plays) could well outscore Robshaw who IMO is a better player (IMO).

[Raggs]

He's tried to set salaries to a bit on public perception, a bit on quality, but also with some opportunities for some really good picks. Someone like Farrell is a good example, worth having for when he's around, but only if you can put in enough cover, of course, with a free trade, you can trade him out when the internationals come around, and then bring him back in after.

EDIT - Can't do this with a lot of players though, maybe 2 (drop them a week early, then a week later the 2nd etc).

[Raggs]

He says he noticed the errors (Rhodes, Saili) and corrected them, don't know when they'll get uploaded, but I'd guess soon.

Once he receives all the data from Opta after the first game, there may be some changes. Apparently the test data doesn't return information on rucks/mauls/scrums but there's entries for each. Very interested in what the ruck info is.

[Digby]

Hughes has certainly played lock, if not for a while

[bitts]

Can you ask him to move Saili to Quins?

Also not sure why Rhodes is down as a flanker but isn't also listed a lock, when Hughes, who AFAIK has never played lock is?

Thanks for getting Rhodes reallocated.

Less happy that Hughes is no longer a lock!

[Raggs]

He covered in one game (ingame) when we had a few injuries that I recall, and he played there in auckland, but I think it's fair to not consider him a lock any more.

[Digby]

Although he did start out a lock, and lots of people might have picked him as he offered cover there.

[bitts]

He says he noticed the errors (Rhodes, Saili) and corrected them, don't know when they'll get uploaded, but I'd guess soon.

Once he receives all the data from Opta after the first game, there may be some changes. Apparently the test data doesn't return information on rucks/mauls/scrums but there's entries for each. Very interested in what the ruck info is.

Would he change the scoring after the squads are set? Would be a tad irritating if so.

[Puja]

Can you ask him to move Saili to Quins?

Also not sure why Rhodes is down as a flanker but isn't also listed a lock, when Hughes, who AFAIK has never played lock is?

Thanks for getting Rhodes reallocated.

Less happy that Hughes is no longer a lock!

Oh you bugger SH! Hughes was going to be my captain at lock! With locks scoring 1 point per 2m or per two offloads, he was going to be massive!

Do we know if the wages will fluctuate over the season? So if you get someone who's a bargain at the beginning, will they cost more to pick them up later in the year?

Puja

[Scrumhead]

Sorry Puja - screwed myself over on that one too. Still, it makes Rhodes a much more useful pick and it's more factually accurate ...

[Digby]

Wages it seems will fluctuate depending on performance and/or player popularity within the game

[Scrumhead]

Just a quick observation - there's no 'Usernames' so if you want to retain Internet anonymity, maybe switch it over to your Forum name.

[Raggs]

Points will be allocated according to position actually played not where you pick them. Hugheswould get back row points even if you choose him at lock.

[bitts]

Points will be allocated according to position actually played not where you pick them. Hugheswould get back row points even if you choose him at lock.

Are you sure? Only ask as I can't see that in the help section?

https://therugbymagazine.com/fantasy/help

[Digby]

Points will be allocated according to position actually played not where you pick them. Hugheswould get back row points even if you choose him at lock.

Are you sure? Only ask as I can't see that in the help section?

https://therugbymagazine.com/fantasy/help

By where they play do we assume the number shirt they're named in? For instance in the 6N England rather played around with the Lawes/Itoje role Vs the numbers on their shirts. Also what if a player moves role during a game for whatever reason?

[Puja]

Points will be allocated according to position actually played not where you pick them. Hugheswould get back row points even if you choose him at lock.

If that's the case, then that needs to be made a *lot* clearer in the rules. I was busy packing my second row with back row players because I thought it was an exploit. It does make a lot more sense for it to work that way, but that's definitely not how it reads and I'd've been very unhappy if I'd picked my team based on an unclear ruleset.

Puja

[bitts]

Points will be allocated according to position actually played not where you pick them. Hugheswould get back row points even if you choose him at lock.

Pretty sure that's not the case. Looked at an article on the site and it says the below:

COVER

One of the great things about this game is that players (especially backs) aren't tied to their position, which means you are able to pick utility players to act as excellent cover when an injury crisis or international break hits you hard.

Obviously this means you have greater numbers for each position, so my squad currently consists of the following cover: 6 Props, 3 Hookers, 4 Locks, 6 Flankers, 4 No. 8s, 3 Scrum Halves, 7 Fly Halves, 8 Centres, 5 Wings, 5 Full-backs, and enough money in the bank for one extra player.

If you are struggling to pick between a couple of players, look and the extra positions and the flexibility each gives you.

POSITIONAL BIAS

It’s hard to pinpoint this at this early stage, as the game designers have tweaked the point scoring algorithm, but if back rowers are scoring more points than locks it is possible to fill your lock positions with players who will play in the back row. The likes of Beaumont and Nathan Hughes fall into this category but a more interesting case is Cameron Neild who is listed as a hooker and flanker.

https://therugbymagazine.com/the-scout/ ... d-building

[bitts]

Scratch what I've just said. Just had this notification:

Thank you to those who have questioned the ambiguity around players' positional point scoring. The help section has been updated to clarify exactly how points are calculated with the following:

Where points that players earn are dependent on positions, these are calculated from the position in which the player starts a fixture, not the position for which he is chosen for your team. If you select a flanker as a lock and he plays for his club at flanker, his points will be calculated as a flanker. Further to this, in the event that a player changes position during a fixture, the points are calculated based on his original position at the beginning of the fixture.

<end>

I guess if you play an 8 at 7 it makes no difference though?

[Stom]

I'm up to 31 now. But a little unbalanced. Will probably have to fiddle a little bit to find better balance. That means ditching someone I don't really want to in the backs. And probably somewhere else to find another prop...And then I still maybe need a little more balance. Perhaps

So maybe it's not as simple as I thought

[Puja]

Scratch what I've just said. Just had this notification:

Thank you to those who have questioned the ambiguity around players' positional point scoring. The help section has been updated to clarify exactly how points are calculated with the following:

Where points that players earn are dependent on positions, these are calculated from the position in which the player starts a fixture, not the position for which he is chosen for your team. If you select a flanker as a lock and he plays for his club at flanker, his points will be calculated as a flanker. Further to this, in the event that a player changes position during a fixture, the points are calculated based on his original position at the beginning of the fixture.

<end>

I guess if you play an 8 at 7 it makes no difference though?

Well that buggers all of my carefully laid plans. Back to the drawing board!

Puja