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Re: Scotland Player Form Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:50 pm
by Cameo
Just watching the glasgow game. Is Lee Jones now our fourth choice wing. He is looking better and better

Re: Scotland Player Form Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:08 pm
by Mikey Brown
Depends massively on the enigma that is Tim Visser.

Second half v Wales Tim Visser I'd probably have in 2nd place. First half v Wales Tim Visser would be behind anyone else with a cap.

I'm assuming your first three were Seymour, Maryland and lanky Tim?

I'd be more than happy to see Jones get another bash. He doesn't seem to make many mistakes, which when you have Russell, Hogg, Price, Jones in a backline could be enough to tie it all together.

Re: Scotland Player Form Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:27 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
Cameo wrote:Just watching the glasgow game. Is Lee Jones now our fourth choice wing. He is looking better and better
He does little wrong but he doesn't have that X factor either. He's certainly a better defender than Visser which is what worries me the most about him TBH. Visser is a deadly finisher though. Jones doesn't have that raw pace and often gets caught before the try line when I expect most nippy wings would finish the chance.

Hard to say really. I personally wouldn't have either in the 23.

Re: Scotland Player Form Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:47 pm
by Cameo
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:
Cameo wrote:Just watching the glasgow game. Is Lee Jones now our fourth choice wing. He is looking better and better
He does little wrong but he doesn't have that X factor either. He's certainly a better defender than Visser which is what worries me the most about him TBH. Visser is a deadly finisher though. Jones doesn't have that raw pace and often gets caught before the try line when I expect most nippy wings would finish the chance.

Hard to say really. I personally wouldn't have either in the 23.
Who would be your backup then?

Re: Scotland Player Form Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:42 am
by Big D
Cameo wrote:
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:
Cameo wrote:Just watching the glasgow game. Is Lee Jones now our fourth choice wing. He is looking better and better
He does little wrong but he doesn't have that X factor either. He's certainly a better defender than Visser which is what worries me the most about him TBH. Visser is a deadly finisher though. Jones doesn't have that raw pace and often gets caught before the try line when I expect most nippy wings would finish the chance.

Hard to say really. I personally wouldn't have either in the 23.
Who would be your backup then?
Not much between Visser/Jones for 3rd wing. I'd probably go Visser purely for his better finishing but not fussed either way.

Like HW, I wouldn't have a specialist 3rd wing in the matchday 23. .

Re: Scotland Player Form Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:00 am
by hugh_woatmeigh
Cameo wrote:
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:
Cameo wrote:Just watching the glasgow game. Is Lee Jones now our fourth choice wing. He is looking better and better
He does little wrong but he doesn't have that X factor either. He's certainly a better defender than Visser which is what worries me the most about him TBH. Visser is a deadly finisher though. Jones doesn't have that raw pace and often gets caught before the try line when I expect most nippy wings would finish the chance.

Hard to say really. I personally wouldn't have either in the 23.
Who would be your backup then?
Backup winger? I'd probably go for Jones but I am aware that he isn't clinical enough to be at op international. Hopefully his defence and excellent link play - keeping the ball alive at pace would offset that.

If you mean bench backups I'd go for a combination of Horne/Jackson and Taylor/Dunbar depending on who starts & form.

Re: Scotland Player Form Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:20 pm
by Cameo
Okay, that makes sense although not really convinced Jackson has it in him to be an international back 3 option.

I also wouldn't want to shuffle Hogg to wing to fit him in at full back

Re: Scotland Player Form Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:56 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
Cameo wrote:Okay, that makes sense although not really convinced Jackson has it in him to be an international back 3 option.

I also wouldn't want to shuffle Hogg to wing to fit him in at full back
Jackson is 10/15 cover in my mind.

Jones & Taylor can offer wing cover. Which is why Dunbar/Taylor are bench options.

When was the last time we could effectively cover 10-15 with two players? The backs have come on a lot.

Re: Scotland Player Form Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:14 am
by Big D
Visser on scoresheet with a double for Quins last night.

Re: Scotland Player Form Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:35 am
by Mikey Brown
Strauss didn't look too shabby for Sale either. Carrying well.

Great to see Dell and Brown back in action in the last week or two. Worrying to hear Nel struggling.