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Re: Quins v Sale Fri 7.45
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:40 pm
by Oakboy
What a joy to see a FH step round a few and set something up. No wonder Eddie likes the lad.
Re: Quins v Sale Fri 7.45
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:54 pm
by Banquo
Oakboy wrote:What a joy to see a FH step round a few and set something up. No wonder Eddie likes the lad.
very Ford like
Re: Quins v Sale Fri 7.45
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:01 pm
by Mellsblue
There aren't many things funnier than watching a lanky lock at full speed. Thank you Charlie 'intercept' Matthews.
Re: Quins v Sale Fri 7.45
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:02 pm
by 16th man
Jono Ross may be shaping up as a bit of a Jerome Schuster contender. Looks well off the pace.
Re: Quins v Sale Fri 7.45
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:09 pm
by 16th man
Well, that's 2 tries from the 2 times we've managed to not drop the ball in the Quinn's half
Re: Quins v Sale Fri 7.45
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:26 pm
by 16th man
Right Carley, it may gave been a knock on, but then Visser kicks it forwards and Quin's are offside when they jump on it, so maybe you can understand why Ross is a bit peed off.
Re: Quins v Sale Fri 7.45
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:28 pm
by 16th man
16th man wrote:Right Carley, it may gave been a knock on, but then Visser kicks it forwards and Quin's are offside when they jump on it, so maybe you can understand why Ross is a bit peed off, especially when you've said you've clearly seen it but it takes 5 replays to actually tell he didn't get it down for the try.
Re: Quins v Sale Fri 7.45
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:02 pm
by Stom
Stom wrote:Could be a try fest...neither team has the best defense.
Well, guess I was right...
Re: Quins v Sale Fri 7.45
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:04 pm
by Banquo
Stom wrote:Stom wrote:Could be a try fest...neither team has the best defense.
Well, guess I was right...
nailed it, quins less bad without the ball than Sale. Though a couple of quins tries were excellent.
Re: Quins v Sale Fri 7.45
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:09 pm
by Stom
Banquo wrote:Stom wrote:Stom wrote:Could be a try fest...neither team has the best defense.
Well, guess I was right...
nailed it, quins less bad without the ball than Sale. Though a couple of quins tries were excellent.
Marchant looking a cut above at times, for me.
And Smith does not act like an 18 year old. He's got some ability.
Re: Quins v Sale Fri 7.45
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:09 pm
by Scrumhead
Just got home from the game. On the whole it was a very pleasing performance. I certainly felt as though we were a lot better value for our bonus point than Sale were for theirs.
Re: Quins v Sale Fri 7.45
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:43 pm
by Puja
Stom wrote:Banquo wrote:Stom wrote:
Well, guess I was right...
nailed it, quins less bad without the ball than Sale. Though a couple of quins tries were excellent.
Marchant looking a cut above at times, for me.
And Smith does not act like an 18 year old. He's got some ability.
Indeed. There's some clear things to work on, but he's got things that you can't teach. His timing of the pass for the last try was utterly sublime.
Was disappointed in BCurry today. Opportunity to show Eddie why he deserves to be in the EPS and he didn't get into the game apart from tackles. No competition for the ball, no trailing of runners looking for offloads, and I'm not sure he actually carried the ball. Deservedly given the shepherd's crook and Sale looked much better with Ioane.
Puja
Re: Quins v Sale Fri 7.45
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:13 am
by fivepointer
Highlight was watching Marcus Smith who does look a very fine talent. Lowlight was the injury to Clifford, which will probably rule him out of the AI's . This guy isnt getting much luck with injuries. Collier's early departure will be a concern.
Re: Quins v Sale Fri 7.45
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:20 am
by Mellsblue
Puja wrote:Stom wrote:Banquo wrote:
nailed it, quins less bad without the ball than Sale. Though a couple of quins tries were excellent.
Marchant looking a cut above at times, for me.
And Smith does not act like an 18 year old. He's got some ability.
Was disappointed in BCurry today. Opportunity to show Eddie why he deserves to be in the EPS and he didn't get into the game apart from tackles. No competition for the ball, no trailing of runners looking for offloads, and I'm not sure he actually carried the ball. Deservedly given the shepherd's crook and Sale looked much better with Ioane.
Puja
I agree he was poor but he did try and turnover ball, albeit comparatively rarely. On at least one I thought Quins were lucky not to be pinged for holding on and he did slow down a few others. It seems a deliberate tactic across all teams to go for less turnovers and just fan out across the pitch.
I'd love to see stats for turnovers at the breakdown for this season compared to this time last year. It may well prove me wrong but from the games I've seen there is a conscious decision not to compete as much at ruck time for 'jackals' due to the new laws.
Re: Quins v Sale Fri 7.45
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:56 am
by Oakboy
Banquo wrote:Oakboy wrote:What a joy to see a FH step round a few and set something up. No wonder Eddie likes the lad.
very Ford like
If only!
I am resigned to never seeing it from Ford IF Farrell is at 12. It's pure guesswork but I think Smith could have the character to tell Farrell (and Eddie, if necessary) to f/o whereas Ford, in my prejudiced opinion, seems to shelve character and, therefore, flair if he is alongside Farrell. The obvious solution is to give Ford a run for a few games with T'eo at 12 but I don't think Eddie will. Had Saracens been starting Farrell regularly, there might have been hope of resting him.
Re: Quins v Sale Fri 7.45
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:23 am
by Banquo
Oakboy wrote:Banquo wrote:Oakboy wrote:What a joy to see a FH step round a few and set something up. No wonder Eddie likes the lad.
very Ford like
If only!
I am resigned to never seeing it from Ford IF Farrell is at 12. It's pure guesswork but I think Smith could have the character to tell Farrell (and Eddie, if necessary) to f/o whereas Ford, in my prejudiced opinion, seems to shelve character and, therefore, flair if he is alongside Farrell. The obvious solution is to give Ford a run for a few games with T'eo at 12 but I don't think Eddie will. Had Saracens been starting Farrell regularly, there might have been hope of resting him.
You are right, its utter guesswork.
Re: Quins v Sale Fri 7.45
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:03 pm
by 16th man
Mellsblue wrote:Puja wrote:Stom wrote:
Marchant looking a cut above at times, for me.
And Smith does not act like an 18 year old. He's got some ability.
Was disappointed in BCurry today. Opportunity to show Eddie why he deserves to be in the EPS and he didn't get into the game apart from tackles. No competition for the ball, no trailing of runners looking for offloads, and I'm not sure he actually carried the ball. Deservedly given the shepherd's crook and Sale looked much better with Ioane.
Puja
I agree he was poor but he did try and turnover ball, albeit comparatively rarely. On at least one I thought Quins were lucky not to be pinged for holding on and he did slow down a few others. It seems a deliberate tactic across all teams to go for less turnovers and just fan out across the pitch.
I'd love to see stats for turnovers at the breakdown for this season compared to this time last year. It may well prove me wrong but from the games I've seen there is a conscious decision not to compete as much at ruck time for 'jackals' due to the new laws.
Last night was a good reminder that pinning hopes on a 19 year old is a bit premature. Sale were pretty badly outmuscled for the first hour. Hopefully when he's developed fully he'll be part of the solution to that issue, but last night he was definitely part of the problem.