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Re: All Blacks EOYT squad

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:39 pm
by paddy no 11
Who was the fella who played right wing or 13, skinny white boy who could do it all. About 5-7 years age could do it all but got injured, chiefs player?

Re: All Blacks EOYT squad

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:44 pm
by Puja
paddy no 11 wrote:Who was the fella who played right wing or 13, skinny white boy who could do it all. About 5-7 years age could do it all but got injured, chiefs player?
You thinking of Zac Guildford?

Puja

Re: All Blacks EOYT squad

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:48 pm
by morepork
Richard Kahui

Re: All Blacks EOYT squad

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:13 pm
by rowan
:arrow:

Re: All Blacks EOYT squad

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:15 pm
by cashead
Shut the fuck up, rowan. You made a dumb remark, and got pulled up on it. Stop having a cry about it, for fuck’s sake.

Re: All Blacks EOYT squad

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:16 pm
by rowan
Cashead, you are a hapless little coward without a brain between your ears.

Re: All Blacks EOYT squad

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:17 pm
by rowan
As I thought :geek: The bus will be back :twisted:

If there is such a thing as an All Black scrapheap, Julian Savea can rest assured he has not been cast upon it.

That was the clear message from All Blacks coaches Steve Hansen and Ian Foster at Monday's announcement of the 37-strong squad to tour north in November – a group that includes six outside backs, but not the 27-year-old, 108kg Wellington wing who has not been required for international duty since being axed following the drawn series against the British and Irish Lions.

Since then, not only has Ben Smith confirmed a sabbatical, but Israel Dagg and Nehe Milner-Skudder have also suffered season-ending injuries to further erode the back-three stocks which were reinforced by the addition of Tasman fullback David Havili mid-Rugby Championship. Now three-test Taranaki utility back Sete Tamanivalu has been recalled for the tour, and North Harbour wing Matt Duffie whistled up for his first All Black appearance.


https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all ... son-wisely

Re: All Blacks EOYT squad

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:20 pm
by morepork
He is a damn sight better informed re: NZ rugby than you are Wowan.

Souldn't you be adding to a thread for the Portuguese Men's 23-26 year olds with three vowels in their surname who were born facing east or something?

Re: All Blacks EOYT squad

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:08 pm
by cashead
J Dory wrote:So today's posters are:
Fragile, juvenile, hypocritical cowards.

I'd like to know how that compares to:
Predictable juvenile coward, a ranking I obtained last week.

What is the ultimate level one can reach when it comes to being honored with Rowan insult status. I mean, is it like boy scout badges, where you simply sew the next badge on to your list of attained insults, or is it more like martial arts rankings, with the ultimate level being something like grand master juvenile hypocrite coward?
rowan wrote:Cashead, you are a hapless little coward without a brain between your ears.
J Dory's point beautifully fucking illustrated.

Rowan, are you going to have this kind of meltdown every single fucking time you get pulled up for a stupid, asinine remark?

Re: All Blacks EOYT squad

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:22 pm
by morepork
The SHMB's very own Donald Trump.

Re: All Blacks EOYT squad

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:00 pm
by scuzzaman
rowan wrote:There it goes http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/ar ... ref=NZH_fb

Warning: May contain inflammatory comment - ie words . . . :shock:
Mate, Lomu was sick as a dog and thereafter had one kidney. If you think that qualifies him to belong to a group who weren't considered good enough for the All Blacks after 27 in spite of being otherwise in sound physical health, you're both bonkers. That'S reaching for confirmatory evidence that ... just. isn't. there.

Re: All Blacks EOYT squad

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:00 pm
by morepork
scuzzaman wrote:
rowan wrote:There it goes http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/ar ... ref=NZH_fb

Warning: May contain inflammatory comment - ie words . . . :shock:
Mate, Lomu was sick as a dog and thereafter had one kidney. If you think that qualifies him to belong to a group who weren't considered good enough for the All Blacks after 27 in spite of being otherwise in sound physical health, you're both bonkers. That'S reaching for confirmatory evidence that ... just. isn't. there.

Methinks the order of events was the other way around...

Re: All Blacks EOYT squad

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:03 pm
by rowan
No meltdown going on at this end. I choose my words carefully. When I arrived on this forum there was a poster with the tag UGagain coming in for the same treatment. Didn't take me long to figure out he was easily the most enlightened poster on this forum and you guys were terrified of him. I abandoned the political forum because I saw the same problem developing, that my views frightened you, and that it really wasn't worth the effort. But it seems my harmless observations elsewhere are now being attacked by those who can neither forgive nor forget the fact someone did not think as they did. That's the epitome of narrow-minded immaturity and cowardice. Time to take a long hard look in the mirror, kiddies.

Re: All Blacks EOYT squad

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:13 pm
by rowan
We'll never know how long Lomu would've stayed good for without the illness, regrettably. Harty misused him at the 99 RWC but he was still at the peak of his powers in his mid-20s, as we saw in that magnificent test against Australia at the turn of the century. Don't remember too much about him after that, as I moved to Spain that year and thereafter began to focus more on the tier 3 stuff than tier 1 - in between World Cups. Campese is probably the best example of an outside back with longevity, though he was a relative lightweight by today's standards and spent the final years of his career getting crunched by NZ's new generation of beefy Pacific Islanders. I still remember his dreadful attempt at tackling Inga the winger one year! But, yes, Campo is probably still regarded as the greatest, and not least because he was a danger man right into his early 30s.

Re: All Blacks EOYT squad

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:13 pm
by scuzzaman
Bryan Habana.

Re: All Blacks EOYT squad

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:15 pm
by rowan
scuzzaman wrote:Bryan Habana.
Yes, another example. Well done. No giant either, tho.

Re: All Blacks EOYT squad

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:16 pm
by scuzzaman
morepork wrote:
scuzzaman wrote:
rowan wrote:There it goes http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/ar ... ref=NZH_fb

Warning: May contain inflammatory comment - ie words . . . :shock:
Mate, Lomu was sick as a dog and thereafter had one kidney. If you think that qualifies him to belong to a group who weren't considered good enough for the All Blacks after 27 in spite of being otherwise in sound physical health, you're both bonkers. That'S reaching for confirmatory evidence that ... just. isn't. there.

Methinks the order of events was the other way around...
I don't recall the exact details, but he still doesn't belong in that group. He had serious health problems and they didn't.

You could find a group of All Blacks dumped at every or any age and make the same fallacious argument that there was some mysterious condition that tied them all together, apart from the blindingly obvious one that the selectors didn't think they were performing better than someone else ...

Re: All Blacks EOYT squad

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:21 pm
by morepork
Norm Berryman would have been up there if John Hart wasn't such a latte-drinking Jaffa fanny.

Re: All Blacks EOYT squad

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:30 pm
by scuzzaman
morepork wrote:Norm Berryman would have been up there if John Hart wasn't such a latte-drinking Jaffa fanny.
True dat.

Re: All Blacks EOYT squad

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:44 pm
by rowan
Perhaps if he'd converted to front rower...

Jeff Wilson was another victim of the latte-drinking one, being played out of position in 99 and contributing to the carnage. But he played most of his rugby on the wing, I believe, and almost stuck around till his 30s.

Re: All Blacks EOYT squad

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:49 pm
by J Dory
rowan wrote:No meltdown going on at this end. I choose my words carefully. When I arrived on this forum there was a poster with the tag UGagain coming in for the same treatment. Didn't take me long to figure out he was easily the most enlightened poster on this forum and you guys were terrified of him. I abandoned the political forum because I saw the same problem developing, that my views frightened you, and that it really wasn't worth the effort. But it seems my harmless observations elsewhere are now being attacked by those who can neither forgive nor forget the fact someone did not think as they did. That's the epitome of narrow-minded immaturity and cowardice. Time to take a long hard look in the mirror, kiddies.
I won't speak for anyone else, but I liked UG and enjoyed his contribution. I find your contributions less interesting. However your ability to attack other posters while simultaneously playing the victim is something else. The fact that you see yourself as some kind of enlightened messiah is almost funny.

Re: All Blacks EOYT squad

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:57 pm
by rowan
J Dory wrote:
rowan wrote:No meltdown going on at this end. I choose my words carefully. When I arrived on this forum there was a poster with the tag UGagain coming in for the same treatment. Didn't take me long to figure out he was easily the most enlightened poster on this forum and you guys were terrified of him. I abandoned the political forum because I saw the same problem developing, that my views frightened you, and that it really wasn't worth the effort. But it seems my harmless observations elsewhere are now being attacked by those who can neither forgive nor forget the fact someone did not think as they did. That's the epitome of narrow-minded immaturity and cowardice. Time to take a long hard look in the mirror, kiddies.
I won't speak for anyone else, but I liked UG and enjoyed his contribution. I find your contributions less interesting. However your ability to attack other posters while simultaneously playing the victim is something else. The fact that you see yourself as some kind of enlightened messiah is almost funny.
No, you're just afraid of what I have to say, coward. 8-)

Re: All Blacks EOYT squad

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:00 pm
by rowan
I guess Tana Umaga has a fairly lengthy career too, though mostly at center. Doug Howlett was another. Was he around in his late 20s?

Re: All Blacks EOYT squad

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:04 pm
by morepork
Please justify the accusation of cowardice in this context. Inquiring minds wish to know...

Re: All Blacks EOYT squad

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:32 pm
by rowan
rowan wrote:We'll never know how long Lomu would've stayed good for without the illness, regrettably. Harty misused him at the 99 RWC but he was still at the peak of his powers in his mid-20s, as we saw in that magnificent test against Australia at the turn of the century. Don't remember too much about him after that, as I moved to Spain that year and thereafter began to focus more on the tier 3 stuff than tier 1 - in between World Cups. Campese is probably the best example of an outside back with longevity, though he was a relative lightweight by today's standards and spent the final years of his career getting crunched by NZ's new generation of beefy Pacific Islanders. I still remember his dreadful attempt at tackling Inga the winger one year! But, yes, Campo is probably still regarded as the greatest, and not least because he was a danger man right into his early 30s.
I guess I saw Campo in his debut test series - against the All Blacks in 82. That was also my first ever trip to the stadium to watch a test match. I was just a kid in short pants but still remember the frightening ease with which the teenaged Aussie sensation left our players clutching at thin air with that audacious goose-step of his. Interesting Australia dominated the Hong Kong 7s in those days, with Campese to the fore. Only Fiji got close, but the green & golds invariably prevailed. Campo played his last test more than 14 years later, shortly after his 34th birthday, and followed it up with a final outing for Australia against the Baabaas at Twickers, scoring in the 39-12 victory and receiving a standing ovation. Legend.