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Re: Leinster v Wasps

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:52 pm
by Stom
Mikey Brown wrote:Aside from that obviously not being the point I was making, the Scotland attack is generally quite fun to watch. I’d call them quite attack-oriented, I don’t think I’d call them attacking.

Just like I wouldn’t describe a team as “very defending”.
Well, it's better than a team being very offensive, like Quins last season...

Re: Leinster v Wasps

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:50 pm
by Mellsblue
Champions Cup debut against Leinster at the RDS. I couldn’t be happier for Booj.

Re: Leinster v Wasps

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:01 pm
by 16th man
Actually quite like the ref cracking down early on closing at the line out and hookers moving around.

That is so long as the players react accordingly and it isn't every bloody one.

Re: Leinster v Wasps

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:02 pm
by 16th man
Dallaglio somehow not twigging to the fact that Daly got exactly what he wanted by bouncing that out off the Leinster player.

Re: Leinster v Wasps

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:07 pm
by 16th man
Got to ask the question about the ref being able to pick up Bassett's deliberate knock on from the video replay but not Cronin clearly picking the ball up from behind himself for the try.

Obviously don't want to point out one was denying the home team a try and the other was awarding them a penalty but....

Re: Leinster v Wasps

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:35 pm
by Oakboy
Am I seeing something wrong or is Shields the worst back rower on the pitch by miles? How the hell does he get into the England squad?

Re: Leinster v Wasps

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:36 pm
by Timbo
Thought the Cronin ‘try’ was a really obvious penalty to Wasps at the time. Beyond me why having a foot in front of the ball wouldn’t be something you’d immediately think of to check.

And Sopoaga shouldn’t have been a yellow either, Cronin threw that pass a mile forwards.

But other than that...

Re: Leinster v Wasps

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:38 pm
by Timbo
Oakboy wrote:Am I seeing something wrong or is Shields the worst back rower on the pitch by miles? How the hell does he get into the England squad?
You’re seeing something wrong. Imo.

He’s been fantastic around the breakdown and tackle area. Slowed so much Leinster ball down.

Re: Leinster v Wasps

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:44 pm
by Raggs
Cronin try I can let go. Lima's yellow is plain wrong, should have been a scrum wasps.

Re: Leinster v Wasps

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:44 pm
by 16th man
Timbo wrote:
Oakboy wrote:Am I seeing something wrong or is Shields the worst back rower on the pitch by miles? How the hell does he get into the England squad?
You’re seeing something wrong. Imo.

He’s been fantastic around the breakdown and tackle area. Slowed so much Leinster ball down.
Given the defensive effort Wasps are putting in, seems a bit odd to be getting into a guy who's tackling himself to a stand still.

Tommy Taylor looking like he's starting to get back to his pre-injury levels around the pitch too.

Re: Leinster v Wasps

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:47 pm
by Oakboy
Timbo wrote:
Oakboy wrote:Am I seeing something wrong or is Shields the worst back rower on the pitch by miles? How the hell does he get into the England squad?
You’re seeing something wrong. Imo.

He’s been fantastic around the breakdown and tackle area. Slowed so much Leinster ball down.
We'll have to agree to differ, I think. Carr and Young have been massively more effective in my eyes in the areas you mention. They have both completed tackles, for example, and got their hands on the ball. I'd bring Johnson on for Shields at HT.

Re: Leinster v Wasps

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:50 pm
by Oakboy
16th man wrote:
Timbo wrote:
Oakboy wrote:Am I seeing something wrong or is Shields the worst back rower on the pitch by miles? How the hell does he get into the England squad?
You’re seeing something wrong. Imo.

He’s been fantastic around the breakdown and tackle area. Slowed so much Leinster ball down.
Given the defensive effort Wasps are putting in, seems a bit odd to be getting into a guy who's tackling himself to a stand still.

Tommy Taylor looking like he's starting to get back to his pre-injury levels around the pitch too.
I only see what's in shot and may be wrong. Shields just seems to be a yard off everything. He's getting in the way sometimes and that's about it.

Re: Leinster v Wasps

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:55 pm
by Mellsblue
Great try. Simple but very effective first phase strike move*.




Mikey Brown will hate that phrase.

Re: Leinster v Wasps

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:55 pm
by 16th man
Poitre really not covering himself in glory here. That scrum wasn't going anywhere for far too long, really should have been telling Leinster to use it.

Re: Leinster v Wasps

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:12 pm
by Peej
Leinster didn't score there, but was there not a massive knock on from Leinster to get the turn over?

Lots if Wasps players looking pretty piss poor. Just doesn't seem to be any belief

Re: Leinster v Wasps

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:14 pm
by Mellsblue
What. A. Try.

Re: Leinster v Wasps

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:15 pm
by Oakboy
Mellsblue wrote:What. A. Try.
Stunning.

Re: Leinster v Wasps

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:19 pm
by WaspInWales
Jeez

Re: Leinster v Wasps

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:21 pm
by 16th man
High shot on De Jongh there.

Edit: Leinster have played bloody well, and Wasps look like a side who've been disrupted by injury and other factors, but Poitre has gone fairly homer and killed this as any sort of contest.

Re: Leinster v Wasps

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:23 pm
by Peej
Daly's had a shocker

Re: Leinster v Wasps

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:24 pm
by Peej
16th man wrote:High shot on De Jongh there.

Edit: Leinster have played bloody well, and Wasps look like a side who've been disrupted by injury and other factors, but Poitre has gone full homer and killed this as any sort of contest.
In the Prem the TMO would be all over that

Re: Leinster v Wasps

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:25 pm
by 16th man
Peej wrote:
16th man wrote:High shot on De Jongh there.

Edit: Leinster have played bloody well, and Wasps look like a side who've been disrupted by injury and other factors, but Poitre has gone full homer and killed this as any sort of contest.
In the Prem the TMO would be all over that
It's an IRB directive so it shouldn't just be the prem.

Re: Leinster v Wasps

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:29 pm
by Oakboy
Talk about being outclassed! Leinster are just magnificent.

Re: Leinster v Wasps

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:31 pm
by Peej
Wasps are making it very easy for them but Leinster are very impressive

Re: Leinster v Wasps

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:31 pm
by 16th man
Oakboy wrote:Talk about being outclassed! Leinster are just magnificent.
On this evidence Ireland vs the All Blacks could be an absolute classic.