England vs Japan minute by minute - Second half

[Digby]

It's worth remembering it took Brown a while to work out kick returns at test level and that with far more club experience

I'm also not sure what we want to achieve on kick returns looking at what players ahead of the ball are and indeed aren't doing

[Stom]

Thanks for this Puja.

Pretty much reinforces my view of the game.

Williams in particular was crap.

There are some key themes throughout - lack of intensity, poor tactical kicking and a lack of awareness to recognise opportunities. Daly was particularly culpable with several attacking options entirely wasted by not even looking and kicking aimlessly.

Watching Slade stink out the place again makes me realise how much we’ve missed JJ.

Even if his attacking game has been blunted by Eddie’s system, his defence is vastly superior to anyone else at 13.

Daly seems like a fish completely out of water at fb. He’s missed numerous opportunities to put the winger in to space, his kicking from hand has regressed, he’s average under the high ball and his kick return is far worse than Brown’s. I was sat at the end that saw virtually no action and it was obvious to be that on kick returns he is very muddled as to what he wants to achieve.
As for Slade, I’m not sure what he brings to the party. He’s defensively questionable and he’s not being used correctly in attack. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Farrell - Te’o - Tuilagi this sat, assuming latter is fit.

This is, almost always, a management issue. In any business, sport, etc. Jones is not getting the most out of his resources. He is overloading some of them with information, he is asking some of them to play outside their regular games and it is having an impact.

Plus, his inability to get our SHs the right way round!!!

Farrell plays club level off the 9. Ford plays off 10. So we continuously pick Farrell with Youngs, who plays off Ford at club level, and Ford with Care, who is the playmaker at club level.

I mean, seriously.

[Mellsblue]

It's worth remembering it took Brown a while to work out kick returns at test level and that with far more club experience

I'm also not sure what we want to achieve on kick returns looking at what players ahead of the ball are and indeed aren't doing

I’d agree that it takes time but, sadly, world rugby won’t move the World Cup to 2020.

[Digby]

It's worth remembering it took Brown a while to work out kick returns at test level and that with far more club experience

I'm also not sure what we want to achieve on kick returns looking at what players ahead of the ball are and indeed aren't doing

I’d agree that it takes time but, sadly, world rugby won’t move the World Cup to 2020.

I'm not alarmed if we're heading into the WC with Daly at fullback, partly he has time to develop in the role, partly there's plenty players upfield of him can do to help, and partly it's a long way down our list of problems

[Mellsblue]

It's worth remembering it took Brown a while to work out kick returns at test level and that with far more club experience

I'm also not sure what we want to achieve on kick returns looking at what players ahead of the ball are and indeed aren't doing

I’d agree that it takes time but, sadly, world rugby won’t move the World Cup to 2020.

I'm not alarmed if we're heading into the WC with Daly at fullback, partly he has time to develop in the role, partly there's plenty players upfield of him can do to help, and partly it's a long way down our list of problems

That’s overly optimistic and totally out of character, Diggers.

[Digby]

I’d agree that it takes time but, sadly, world rugby won’t move the World Cup to 2020.

I'm not alarmed if we're heading into the WC with Daly at fullback, partly he has time to develop in the role, partly there's plenty players upfield of him can do to help, and partly it's a long way down our list of problems

That’s overly optimistic and totally out of character, Diggers.

Increasingly I just don't care. it's embarrassing to be so shown up by an actual intent to play as Japan did, wtf are we waiting for? We have all the intent of an Arsene Wenger side that if the opposition stop us running our preferred game plan it's not our fault if we struggle

[Mellsblue]

I'm not alarmed if we're heading into the WC with Daly at fullback, partly he has time to develop in the role, partly there's plenty players upfield of him can do to help, and partly it's a long way down our list of problems

That’s overly optimistic and totally out of character, Diggers.

Increasingly I just don't care. it's embarrassing to be so shown up by an actual intent to play as Japan did, wtf are we waiting for? We have all the intent of an Arsene Wenger side that if the opposition stop us running our preferred game plan it's not our fault if we struggle

That’s more like it!!

[Mikey Brown]

Aye. Slade is either unable to get himself involved (in a good way) at this level/system or EJ has no idea what to do with him. Shame as he is so skilful, but for whatever reason is looking lost in defence very frequently. That doesn’t matter for some players but we can’t have that many in the side.

[Digby]

We could perhaps say Eddie knows what he wants but isn't sure how to get that from the limited options available to him