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Puja wrote:

Scrumhead wrote:Was Ben for Tom a tactical swap? I’m hoping Tom is not injured ...

He looked uncomfortable as he went off, but not overtly injured. I'm hoping it was just bumps and bruises and they decided to give him a rest as they were well in the lead.

Puja

Had the shits apparently.

Oh dear, Weir x 2

possible redemption for weir

or not, daft

This is a little bit of a cripple fight...

Really looking forward to the new signings now, we definitely need an improvement in these 3rd choices, they're universally shit.

Has to be said, Robshaw has been very good since coming back from injury.

Blimey- talk about trying to make up for a mistake, looks bad.

Timbo wrote:Has to be said, Robshaw has been very good since coming back from injury.

always been a quality club player.

Banquo wrote:

Timbo wrote:Has to be said, Robshaw has been very good since coming back from injury.

always been a quality club player.

And a very decent international 6?

Timbo wrote:

Banquo wrote:

Timbo wrote:Has to be said, Robshaw has been very good since coming back from injury.

always been a quality club player.

And a very decent international 6?

yes, but no longer, and very decent is a lowish bar. I think the point I'm making is clear- don't mistake looking good at club level (and this is Worcester) is anything other than that.

Banquo wrote:

Timbo wrote:

Banquo wrote: always been a quality club player.

And a very decent international 6?

yes, but no longer, and very decent is a lowish bar. I think the point I'm making is clear- don't mistake looking good at club level (and this is Worcester) is anything other than that.

Indeed. His timing and positioning are superb at this level, but he's lost a little bit of speed, reaction-wise, and that's a killer at international level. Was a great servant for England, now he can go back to the club game and give it his all until going for a final payday in Japan or somewhere.

Poor Josh Ibuanopke, he was absolutely shattered at the end of that. 65 minutes for him was a huge effort. He's nowhere near ready and there have to be questions over whether he ever will be...

disappearing post . Just think his time has gone internationally, plus maybe we need a break from the past leadership wise. Warrior, but not enough,

Just about got away with that ... a poor performance, but I’ll take the result!

Banquo wrote:

Timbo wrote:

Banquo wrote: always been a quality club player.

And a very decent international 6?

yes, but no longer, and very decent is a lowish bar. I think the point I'm making is clear- don't mistake looking good at club level (and this is Worcester) is anything other than that.

I wasn’t being snarky, genuinely wondered what you thought. Very decent wasn’t much cop when he was first choice and out of position in a moderately talented backrow/pack. As 4th choice flanker, wont let you down if needed, in his best position in a much more gifted and balanced pack...

I could live with Eng going to the World Cup with Underhill, Curry, Wilson and Robshaw.

Timbo wrote:

Banquo wrote:

Timbo wrote:
And a very decent international 6?

yes, but no longer, and very decent is a lowish bar. I think the point I'm making is clear- don't mistake looking good at club level (and this is Worcester) is anything other than that.

I wasn’t being snarky, genuinely wondered what you thought. Very decent wasn’t much cop when he was first choice and out of position in a moderately talented backrow/pack. As 4th choice flanker, wont let you down if needed, in his best position in a much more gifted and balanced pack...

I could live with Eng going to the World Cup with Underhill, Curry, Wilson and Robshaw.

answered your original post above

agree with your best position bit, btw, but imo that time has passed- and actually, he might let you down, pace wise.

Timbo wrote:

Banquo wrote:

Timbo wrote:
And a very decent international 6?

yes, but no longer, and very decent is a lowish bar. I think the point I'm making is clear- don't mistake looking good at club level (and this is Worcester) is anything other than that.

I wasn’t being snarky, genuinely wondered what you thought. Very decent wasn’t much cop when he was first choice and out of position in a moderately talented backrow/pack. As 4th choice flanker, wont let you down if needed, in his best position in a much more gifted and balanced pack...

I could live with Eng going to the World Cup with Underhill, Curry, Wilson and Robshaw.

Well yes, he's better than Shields, if that's what you mean...but he's not a Kiwi...

Banquo wrote:disappearing post . Just think his time has gone internationally, plus maybe we need a break from the past leadership wise. Warrior, but not enough,

You edited yours...

If we take 4 out and out flankers who’s number 4 for you then?

Timbo wrote:

Banquo wrote:disappearing post . Just think his time has gone internationally, plus maybe we need a break from the past leadership wise. Warrior, but not enough,

You edited yours...

If we take 4 out and out flankers who’s number 4 for you then?

Kvesic (Willis, Clifford or other Curry)

Clancy is having a poor game already

Yep. The Yato turnover was ridiculous. He was literally kneeling on the ground.

The last pass for their first try was iffy too, albeit less obvious.

Reinach butchered Saints’ best chance though. Had he just run it in to the corner, it was a try all day long.

Clear forward pass from Slimani before Naiyaravoro shoulder charged the Clermont 7 into touch. So that whole scrap was caused because the officials cannot see a clear forward pass

Yep. Blatant as well.

Ridiculous from Naiyaravoro, but I agree with Healy. I’m pretty certain Iturria was up to his dirty tricks again.

How is that not being checked further for Iturria elbowing Lawes in the head.

Luckily Saints lose nothing in defence from Naiyaravoro going off. Shit officiating all around there though.

Adam_P wrote:Clancy is having a poor game already

Clowncy

Clancy is terrible, just awful. How he gets these games is beyond me.