Barbeary
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Wouldn't he be in the Saints academy before Wasps moved?
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Yeah he would have.Tigersman wrote:Wouldn't he be in the Saints academy before Wasps moved?
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u19s vs Wal u19s just about to kick off. Barbaery at 2.
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England 31 Tries - Law, Howard, Clement, Hodge Cons - Hodge 4 Pens - HodgeBanquo wrote:result?
Wales 15 Tries - Yendle, Doel Cons - Pens - Thomas
https://www.englandrugby.com/news/engla ... ales-u19s/
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Cheers!oldbackrow wrote:England 31 Tries - Law, Howard, Clement, Hodge Cons - Hodge 4 Pens - HodgeBanquo wrote:result?
Wales 15 Tries - Yendle, Doel Cons - Pens - Thomas
https://www.englandrugby.com/news/engla ... ales-u19s/
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Barbeary did look good with some impressive carries. Howard, Tuima and Tizzard played well up front and Hodge looked a very tidy all round player.
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Barbeary did look good, but the lineout as always the case at this level for England for some reason was pretty crap.
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Timing must be tough when you're playing with guys just for 1 game, after playing with completely different players. Timings and heights seemed off a lot.Tigersman wrote:Barbeary did look good, but the lineout as always the case at this level for England for some reason was pretty crap.
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That's what i'm assuming, either that or poor coaching.Raggs wrote:Timing must be tough when you're playing with guys just for 1 game, after playing with completely different players. Timings and heights seemed off a lot.Tigersman wrote:Barbeary did look good, but the lineout as always the case at this level for England for some reason was pretty crap.
9's also struggle with it.
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Got to allow some latitude. It was a scratch side with a few untried combinations. Dont think Barbeary had played with the locks before. There were a few co-ordination issues, which i dont think were solely down to him.
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qed - a genuine Hybrid to be sure; he'll be having to deal with a different sort of attention very soon.Epaminondas Pules wrote: Yes he is wearing 13 a lot, although he actually plays 12, they just don’t have a 12 shirt to fit him!!
Future is without a doubt at hooker, but he’s a rather versatile chap.
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He actually did another amazing break and offload as well although it didn't lead to a try.
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Love this from his schools head of rugby, after he demolished the try scoring record for 6th form, whilst playing hooker, whilst still not in the sixth form (special permission to play basically years up):
“After that, we realised he wouldn’t develop much there as a hooker,” Goldsmith adds. “He would destroy other front rows, but wouldn’t develop as an all-round player.
“I moved him to number eight and made him captain in lower sixth and then, in his final year, I moved him to outside centre.
“I wanted to put him outside his comfort zone, getting him to throw 20-metre passes off both hands and try chips and grubbers to develop his all-round game.”
“After that, we realised he wouldn’t develop much there as a hooker,” Goldsmith adds. “He would destroy other front rows, but wouldn’t develop as an all-round player.
“I moved him to number eight and made him captain in lower sixth and then, in his final year, I moved him to outside centre.
“I wanted to put him outside his comfort zone, getting him to throw 20-metre passes off both hands and try chips and grubbers to develop his all-round game.”
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It’s a shame more coaches don’t take that approach, but at the same time, it must be very rare that you find a player capable of playing hooker, 8 or 13 at a good enough standard to make your first XV in each of those positions.
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Got to wonder how many potentially good athletes have been put off rugby by school coaches who's selection philosophy followed the "you're tall, you're paying lock" route, regardless of skills, ambition or enjoyment of the child.Scrumhead wrote:It’s a shame more coaches don’t take that approach, but at the same time, it must be very rare that you find a player capable of playing hooker, 8 or 13 at a good enough standard to make your first XV in each of those positions.
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16th man wrote:Got to wonder how many potentially good athletes have been put off rugby by school coaches who's selection philosophy followed the "you're tall, you're paying lock" route, regardless of skills, ambition or enjoyment of the child.Scrumhead wrote:It’s a shame more coaches don’t take that approach, but at the same time, it must be very rare that you find a player capable of playing hooker, 8 or 13 at a good enough standard to make your first XV in each of those positions.
Bucketloads, says more about piss poor coaching from some far off time.
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Not to mention (as I suffered) "your older brother was a flanker, therefore you must be a flanker too"16th man wrote:Got to wonder how many potentially good athletes have been put off rugby by school coaches who's selection philosophy followed the "you're tall, you're paying lock" route, regardless of skills, ambition or enjoyment of the child.Scrumhead wrote:It’s a shame more coaches don’t take that approach, but at the same time, it must be very rare that you find a player capable of playing hooker, 8 or 13 at a good enough standard to make your first XV in each of those positions.
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This is very upsettingEpaminondas Pules wrote:Yeah he would have.Tigersman wrote:Wouldn't he be in the Saints academy before Wasps moved?
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You should have been grateful ... best position on the pitch.Which Tyler wrote:Not to mention (as I suffered) "your older brother was a flanker, therefore you must be a flanker too"16th man wrote:Got to wonder how many potentially good athletes have been put off rugby by school coaches who's selection philosophy followed the "you're tall, you're paying lock" route, regardless of skills, ambition or enjoyment of the child.Scrumhead wrote:It’s a shame more coaches don’t take that approach, but at the same time, it must be very rare that you find a player capable of playing hooker, 8 or 13 at a good enough standard to make your first XV in each of those positions.