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Re: Exeter vs Northampton

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 5:35 pm
by Adam_P
Mikey Brown wrote:
Adam_P wrote:Wonderful team try finished by Hutchinson
Was it him who did that beautiful pass for the first try?
Think so.

Chiefs are way more dominant in this game now, but we're just about hanging in there. Need to increase the pace like we did at the start

Re: Exeter vs Northampton

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 5:51 pm
by Banquo
Adam_P wrote:
Mikey Brown wrote:
Adam_P wrote:Wonderful team try finished by Hutchinson
Was it him who did that beautiful pass for the first try?
Think so.

Chiefs are way more dominant in this game now, but we're just about hanging in there. Need to increase the pace like we did at the start
Exeter are just more efficient.

Re: Exeter vs Northampton

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 5:53 pm
by Adam_P
Just physically dominating us now. We were playing smart in the first half and running them around, but we've really taken our foot off the gas and we're just getting battered by bigger men now

Re: Exeter vs Northampton

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 6:08 pm
by Shiny
Can’t say I’m looking forward to next weekend. I think the chives look like they are just getting warmed up.

Re: Exeter vs Northampton

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 6:12 pm
by Banquo
saints still get through deserve it

Re: Exeter vs Northampton

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 6:15 pm
by Adam_P
Shiny wrote:Can’t say I’m looking forward to next weekend. I think the chives look like they are just getting warmed up.
No, they look almost unplayable when they're really on top. We need to try and keep up a high tempo wide game for as long as possible next week. Have a feeling Dylan will be back.

Re: Exeter vs Northampton

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 6:19 pm
by Banquo
Adam_P wrote:
Shiny wrote:Can’t say I’m looking forward to next weekend. I think the chives look like they are just getting warmed up.
No, they look almost unplayable when they're really on top. We need to try and keep up a high tempo wide game for as long as possible next week. Have a feeling Dylan will be back.
bit of a contradiction there! High tempo wide game + (Dylan x out for ages)

Re: Exeter vs Northampton

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 9:41 pm
by padprop
Kvesic has really developed into having a fantastic all-court game, I can't see what Eddie could not like about him. (Apart from him not being from the southern hemisphere)

Re: Exeter vs Northampton

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 9:46 pm
by twitchy
padprop wrote:Kvesic has really developed into having a fantastic all-court game, I can't see what Eddie could not like about him. (Apart from him not being from the southern hemisphere)

Seems like bad timing with injuries etc. It's curry's place to lose but he should be in the picture at least.

Re: Exeter vs Northampton

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 9:55 pm
by Banquo
padprop wrote:Kvesic has really developed into having a fantastic all-court game, I can't see what Eddie could not like about him. (Apart from him not being from the southern hemisphere)
He's always been really good tbh, its been an odd career in many ways- still only 27 though. He's a lot better openside than many who have been in the shirt 2012-2018 ish. Not sure injuries explain it.

Re: Exeter vs Northampton

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 10:30 pm
by twitchy
Banquo it's timing of the injuries though isn't it.

Re: Exeter vs Northampton

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 8:32 am
by Oakboy
The shape/balance of Exeter's back row effectively rules Kvesic out of Jones's thinking, I suspect. He's had his best season for years playing at 8 but ne's not the sort of 8 that Jones appears to want - Billy V, Hughes and Wilson are apparently his order of merit. Simmonds is the type of 8 that Baxter wants and Kvesic has been an able deputy in the shirt.

Kvesic at 7? Who knows? Where's the current competitive evidence? Jones has Curry, Underwood and Wilson ahead of him based on his selections.

Much as I feel sory for Kvesic (and disappointed in him until this season) my biggest back row concern is that Wilson's versatility might not give him the starting 6 shirt.

Re: Exeter vs Northampton

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 9:01 am
by Banquo
twitchy wrote:Banquo it's timing of the injuries though isn't it.
don't think so tbh, though I haven't studied the timelines of when Burt stopped picking him. He mysteriously fell out of favour at Glaws, and took a fair while to start regularly at Chiefs when he wasn't crocked.

Re: Exeter vs Northampton

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 9:03 am
by Banquo
Oakboy wrote:The shape/balance of Exeter's back row effectively rules Kvesic out of Jones's thinking, I suspect. He's had his best season for years playing at 8 but ne's not the sort of 8 that Jones appears to want - Billy V, Hughes and Wilson are apparently his order of merit. Simmonds is the type of 8 that Baxter wants and Kvesic has been an able deputy in the shirt.

Kvesic at 7? Who knows? Where's the current competitive evidence? Jones has Curry, Underwood and Wilson ahead of him based on his selections.

Much as I feel sory for Kvesic (and disappointed in him until this season) my biggest back row concern is that Wilson's versatility might not give him the starting 6 shirt.
Kvesic plays the 'role of a 7' just packs down at 8, playing with two carrying flankers alongside. The competitive evidence was Twitchy stats post.

Re: Exeter vs Northampton

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 9:43 am
by Oakboy
Banquo wrote:
Oakboy wrote:The shape/balance of Exeter's back row effectively rules Kvesic out of Jones's thinking, I suspect. He's had his best season for years playing at 8 but ne's not the sort of 8 that Jones appears to want - Billy V, Hughes and Wilson are apparently his order of merit. Simmonds is the type of 8 that Baxter wants and Kvesic has been an able deputy in the shirt.

Kvesic at 7? Who knows? Where's the current competitive evidence? Jones has Curry, Underwood and Wilson ahead of him based on his selections.

Much as I feel sory for Kvesic (and disappointed in him until this season) my biggest back row concern is that Wilson's versatility might not give him the starting 6 shirt.
Kvesic plays the 'role of a 7' just packs down at 8, playing with two carrying flankers alongside. The competitive evidence was Twitchy stats post.
Fair point but I still say that Jones won't change his view on back row selection. He might be right or wrong but he's definitely stubborn. He wants a lump at 8 in a conventional big-is-best role. I suppose we should be grateful he's come around to liking Curry at 7.

Re: Exeter vs Northampton

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 9:52 am
by Mellsblue
Jones obviously doesn’t fancy him. It might be his southern European heritage, rather than Southern Hemisphere heritage, or it might be that Diggers is championing him. Might be both. It might be that his stats in Europe aren’t too good. It’s another chin scratcher. Has he ever been in a training squad? In the back of my mind he was in at least one at the start of Jones’s tenure, perhaps he blotted his copy book then.

What a ramble. Best I can manage on a Sunday morning.

Re: Exeter vs Northampton

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 10:15 am
by p/d
Don’t think it much of a head scratcher. If Jones can’t pronounce a surname after a couple of training sessions he moves on to the next player

Re: Exeter vs Northampton

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 10:50 am
by Banquo
Oakboy wrote:
Banquo wrote:
Oakboy wrote:The shape/balance of Exeter's back row effectively rules Kvesic out of Jones's thinking, I suspect. He's had his best season for years playing at 8 but ne's not the sort of 8 that Jones appears to want - Billy V, Hughes and Wilson are apparently his order of merit. Simmonds is the type of 8 that Baxter wants and Kvesic has been an able deputy in the shirt.

Kvesic at 7? Who knows? Where's the current competitive evidence? Jones has Curry, Underwood and Wilson ahead of him based on his selections.

Much as I feel sory for Kvesic (and disappointed in him until this season) my biggest back row concern is that Wilson's versatility might not give him the starting 6 shirt.
Kvesic plays the 'role of a 7' just packs down at 8, playing with two carrying flankers alongside. The competitive evidence was Twitchy stats post.
Fair point but I still say that Jones won't change his view on back row selection. He might be right or wrong but he's definitely stubborn. He wants a lump at 8 in a conventional big-is-best role. I suppose we should be grateful he's come around to liking Curry at 7.
Vunipola is somewhat more than a big is best 8. you have championed Hughes, and Wilson was the fall back 8. Jones has changed how he selects the back row markedly- albeit forced a bit. He may not change his view, if he has one, on Kvesic.

Re: Exeter vs Northampton

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 8:11 pm
by Digby
p/d wrote:Don’t think it much of a head scratcher. If Jones can’t pronounce a surname after a couple of training sessions he moves on to the next player
If this is the way a system works I hope we're all willing to support a Jonathan Davies for Georgia campaign, just thinking back to how he mangled a name as simple as Jauzion elicits a smile

Re: Exeter vs Northampton

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:12 pm
by twitchy