RugbyRebels

This makes for sober reading:

https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/blog/ ... ssion=true

Rising incidence of mental illness seems unlikely, unless the kids really are snowflakes, it's much more likely it was just never considered before. So things are getting better, albeit too slowly and at times in haphazard fashion with some steps taking us backward at times.

Digby wrote:Rising incidence of mental illness seems unlikely, unless the kids really are snowflakes, it's much more likely it was just never considered before. So things are getting better, albeit too slowly and at times in haphazard fashion with some steps taking us backward at times.

Or maybe the circumstances and processes have changed quite a bit as well.

Puja

Puja wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/49445526

Not hugely distraught about Mallinder himself - I'd prefer to've kept him, but at least it takes the option away from the RFU of picking him as a cheap Eddie replacement - but our age group coaching structure has gone from being best in the world to being akin to Trump's State Department in a very short time.

Ryan let Walton and Fletcher go, then pissed off himself, and now we've lost both Bates and Mallinder. Who the hell is there left?

Puja

He jumped before he was pushed, theres a lot going on behind the scenes. The night he got rid of Walts and Fletch was done in a manner that made Robert Mugabe look well balanced.

Digby wrote:Rising incidence of mental illness seems unlikely, unless the kids really are snowflakes, it's much more likely it was just never considered before. So things are getting better, albeit too slowly and at times in haphazard fashion with some steps taking us backward at times.

Out of sight out of mind? Really? That's as positive an observation you could muster?

morepork wrote:

Digby wrote:Rising incidence of mental illness seems unlikely, unless the kids really are snowflakes, it's much more likely it was just never considered before. So things are getting better, albeit too slowly and at times in haphazard fashion with some steps taking us backward at times.

Out of sight out of mind? Really? That's as positive an observation you could muster?

More that we do give a flying rats arse about such problems now, we don't perhaps always prioritise as well as we could, maybe not even close, but things are progressing. Thus it's unlikely we having rising incidences of mental illness, and rather we have rising rates of recording mental illness

Also what on earth makes you think I've ever tried to make a positive observation? If Im coming across as trying to be positive I need to have a stern word with myself.

Hard to say there is no rise in incidence without a record of said incidence, so you are probably in your safe negative space.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/ ... ral-change

I have to say, this inclines me a bit more to Ben Ryan. Great article, although the stories told are horrific. Whaddya want to bet that the club that bullied "packed lunch boy" were either Leicester or Sale?

Puja

Puja wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/ ... ral-change

I have to say, this inclines me a bit more to Ben Ryan. Great article, although the stories told are horrific. Whaddya want to bet that the club that bullied "packed lunch boy" were either Leicester or Sale?

Puja

The "bad coach" image just conjures up one DoR in particular doesn't it...

A real gem of a man.

One reason why I can't support that club, which is sad, as I'd like to be able to like a wide spread of teams...

packed lunch boy could easily have been at any club in the country, little things like that get picked up at every club and can survive a 15 year career with the abuse that started on day 1 never ceasing thought the career. but mostly that abuse is intended in good spirits and it's just how people tend to be in group settings

As an example what did Wasps call Daly? I'm pretty sure he coped flak for carrying a satchel, it might have been a briefcase, and that never stopped them rating him and him being a popular member of the squad. rugby clubs just tend to be very juvenile, the banter is a mix of brutal and brilliant