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Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:26 am
by Stom
So Lavinini, Puja?

And also, May has seriously become a quality player in all aspects. The presence of mind to call the mark and stop the quick play to call for the TMO...

Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:26 am
by cashead
Lavannini getting sent off has been some time coming. He’s probably fucked the Pumas’ chances.

Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:27 am
by hugh_woatmeigh
Oh it's a clear red card but the amount of cards in this RWC is now unprecedented and we're still in the pool stages. Players need to be given the proper time & training to adapt. Refs letting clear reds fly & carding debatable offences doesn't help the confusion.

Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:27 am
by Stom
cashead wrote:Lavannini getting sent off has been some time coming. He’s probably fucked the Pumas’ chances.
That's the exact type of tackle we need to remove from the game.

Leading with the shoulder needs to be stamped out.

Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:28 am
by Banquo
Ice man

Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:28 am
by Oakboy
Why did Daly not take that long-range kick?

Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:29 am
by Stom
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Oh it's a clear red card but the amount of cards in this RWC is now unprecedented and we're still in the pool stages. Players need to be given the proper time & training to adapt. Refs letting clear reds fly & carding debatable offences doesn't help the confusion.
I completely disagree with the first point.

It's been coming for a while, we've been talking about high tackles, leading with the shoulder, not wrapping, etc. So to be sent off for it should be no surprise. Get lower, don't lead with the shoulder, wrap your arms properly.

Secondly, yes, I agree. Lead with the shoulder, you're carded. Lead with the shoulder high, you're off permanently.

Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:30 am
by Galfon
Faz 2nd miss - need points at this stage to calm the jitters.The match is descending....

Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:30 am
by Banquo
Our handling is awful. Faz seems to be at 10 mostly.

Manu dim

Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:30 am
by Oakboy
That looked a yellow.

Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:31 am
by Banquo
Oakboy wrote:That looked a yellow.
How so?

Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:32 am
by Oakboy
Banquo wrote:
Oakboy wrote:That looked a yellow.
How so?
Tackle with player off the ground.

Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:33 am
by Banquo
Well that was fckin awful

Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:33 am
by Which Tyler
Wait - we have 2 threads for this match? sorry, I just posted in the "wrong" one.

Can someone remind what HIA stands for?

I was under the impression that it was for Head Injury Assessment, but it seems to be for "Loss of Conscioussness Assessment".
That's the 2nd clean hit to the head for Farrell in as many games - he should at the least, have to be getting an HIA.

Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:33 am
by bruce
Stom wrote:
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Oh it's a clear red card but the amount of cards in this RWC is now unprecedented and we're still in the pool stages. Players need to be given the proper time & training to adapt. Refs letting clear reds fly & carding debatable offences doesn't help the confusion.
I completely disagree with the first point.

It's been coming for a while, we've been talking about high tackles, leading with the shoulder, not wrapping, etc. So to be sent off for it should be no surprise. Get lower, don't lead with the shoulder, wrap your arms properly.

Secondly, yes, I agree. Lead with the shoulder, you're carded. Lead with the shoulder high, you're off permanently.
Nothing wrong with that tackle other than the height. Shame for the spectacle and competiveness of the game.

Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:33 am
by Stom
Banquo wrote:
Oakboy wrote:That looked a yellow.
How so?
I agree. slight mistiming. Not particularly dangerous.

Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:34 am
by old-n-slo-2nd-row
Iceman kicking stats not getting any better. Billy three carries, three knock ons .. I cannot believe how much May has matured, I am converted.

Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:34 am
by Stom
bruce wrote:
Stom wrote:
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Oh it's a clear red card but the amount of cards in this RWC is now unprecedented and we're still in the pool stages. Players need to be given the proper time & training to adapt. Refs letting clear reds fly & carding debatable offences doesn't help the confusion.
I completely disagree with the first point.

It's been coming for a while, we've been talking about high tackles, leading with the shoulder, not wrapping, etc. So to be sent off for it should be no surprise. Get lower, don't lead with the shoulder, wrap your arms properly.

Secondly, yes, I agree. Lead with the shoulder, you're carded. Lead with the shoulder high, you're off permanently.
Nothing wrong with that tackle other than the height. Shame for the spectacle and competiveness of the game.
Really?

Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:35 am
by Which Tyler
bruce wrote:
Stom wrote:
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Oh it's a clear red card but the amount of cards in this RWC is now unprecedented and we're still in the pool stages. Players need to be given the proper time & training to adapt. Refs letting clear reds fly & carding debatable offences doesn't help the confusion.
I completely disagree with the first point.

It's been coming for a while, we've been talking about high tackles, leading with the shoulder, not wrapping, etc. So to be sent off for it should be no surprise. Get lower, don't lead with the shoulder, wrap your arms properly.

Secondly, yes, I agree. Lead with the shoulder, you're carded. Lead with the shoulder high, you're off permanently.
Nothing wrong with that tackle other than the height. Shame for the spectacle and competiveness of the game.
That's a pretty big "other than" - there was nothing wrong with it, apart from the fact that it was outright dangerous and rightly outlawed from the game

Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:35 am
by Freddo
That's a belated red for the hit on Hughes' knee.

Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:37 am
by Banquo
Oakboy wrote:
Banquo wrote:
Oakboy wrote:That looked a yellow.
How so?
Tackle with player off the ground.
Not dangerous tho

Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:38 am
by bruce
Which Tyler wrote:
bruce wrote:
Stom wrote:
I completely disagree with the first point.

It's been coming for a while, we've been talking about high tackles, leading with the shoulder, not wrapping, etc. So to be sent off for it should be no surprise. Get lower, don't lead with the shoulder, wrap your arms properly.

Secondly, yes, I agree. Lead with the shoulder, you're carded. Lead with the shoulder high, you're off permanently.
Nothing wrong with that tackle other than the height. Shame for the spectacle and competiveness of the game.
That's a pretty big "other than" - there was nothing wrong with it, apart from the fact that it was outright dangerous and rightly outlawed from the game
I don't disagree it's a red card offence, however Stom was intimating it was a shoulder charge as well.

Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:38 am
by Banquo
Poor poor match so far

Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:38 am
by old-n-slo-2nd-row
Stom wrote:It's been coming for a while, we've been talking about high tackles, leading with the shoulder, not wrapping, etc. So to be sent off for it should be no surprise. Get lower, don't lead with the shoulder, wrap your arms properly.

Secondly, yes, I agree. Lead with the shoulder, you're carded. Lead with the shoulder high, you're off permanently.
100%.

Australia this morning were still tackling like rugby league. Players should not need to “relearn”. We have been coaching to tackle low for ever .. it’s about time this is enforced as it is the only way it will change.

Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:38 am
by Stom
Farrell has learnt! He pulled out of what would have been a dangerous tackle!