Actually, they were very poor for a lot of that too
Re: Autumn Matches
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:19 pm
by 16th man
Squidge rugby pointed it out in the SA game, but it was clear there for NZ, if they aren't getting through, the midfield shape and passing goes to pieces after a couple of phases.
Re: Autumn Matches
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:31 pm
by morepork
Good work Ireland. Way to take it to the opposition for the full 80. Pressure resulted in some borderline comedy from the AB attack. Havili....just not convinced. Reece found really lacking in the decision making department when under pressure.
Re: Autumn Matches
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:41 pm
by J Dory
ABs couldn't hold onto the ball. Have to give credit to Irelands rush defense and breakdown efforts, but worrying signs for the ABs there.
Re: Autumn Matches
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:10 pm
by canta_brian
Is Fozzie safe in his job?
Re: Autumn Matches
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:10 pm
by morepork
We miss a McCaw type leader to steel the backbone when the opposition is giving to us.
Re: Autumn Matches
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:15 pm
by morepork
canta_brian wrote:Is Fozzie safe in his job?
I thought Ireland were good value for the win. Some real deer in the headlights action from NZ. Will Jordan not playing to the whistle was one reeediculous example.
Re: Autumn Matches
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:28 pm
by canta_brian
I agree Ireland we’re good. I’m not used to seeing an all black team look like they had no ideas. If the pass hadn’t been forward and if the break out midway through the 2nd half had lead to tries and us winning people would have purred and said how clinical we were with hardly and possession. But we didn’t have control in that match at any point and we didn’t make any adjustments to adapt to anything.
Re: Autumn Matches
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:32 pm
by paddy no 11
The French pack is a step up too, back to back defeats?
Re: Autumn Matches
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 8:21 pm
by tigran
paddy no 11 wrote:The French pack is a step up too, back to back defeats?
euh, Argentina got the better of the french pack in the first half...
Well done Ireland !
Re: Autumn Matches
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 8:46 pm
by paddy no 11
tigran wrote:
paddy no 11 wrote:The French pack is a step up too, back to back defeats?
euh, Argentina got the better of the french pack in the first half...
Well done Ireland !
Serious backrow physically no doubt but only says knows what the ball is for, montoya is all there too
Re: Autumn Matches
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:27 pm
by zer0
lol. Imagine having Ian we-have-a-mathematical-chance Foster as your HC. It's a 2003 RWC hosting level fiasco from NZR that needs to be sorted ASAP.
Re: Autumn Matches
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:36 am
by Cameo
Great game from Ireland. I wouldn't panic if I was an NZ fan though - the midfield is a real work in progress but there is loads to work with. There are a lot of players who will gain from the experience of facing that intensity too.
And even with all that, if Ioane's score had stood (or Whitlock had gone for a scrum) then NZ could have won that.
The real question for world rugby is if Ireland can keep up the quality of their last two performances.
Re: RE: Re: Autumn Matches
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:06 pm
by Donny osmond
Cameo wrote:Great game from Ireland. I wouldn't panic if I was an NZ fan though - the midfield is a real work in progress but there is loads to work with. There are a lot of players who will gain from the experience of facing that intensity too.
And even with all that, if Ioane's score had stood (or Whitlock had gone for a scrum) then NZ could have won that.
The real question for world rugby is if Ireland can keep up the quality of their last two performances.
Ireland were nearly perfect, and clearly the better team.
Having said that, in 30 odd years of watching international rugby, I have never seen NZ play anywhere close to that bad. Feck knows what was/is going in their camp but that was genuinely shocking.
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Re: Autumn Matches
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:29 pm
by J Dory
Looking for positives maybe, but the defensive effort from NZ was immense. Ireland deserved winners, but to Cameo's point, we tend to be chicken little ish whenever the ABs lose a game and should probably take a collective chill pill. I enjoyed the game despite the loss.
Re: Autumn Matches
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:05 am
by zer0
It's less the loss itself, and more the manner of the loss. A manner that goes back to at least 2018 when the Boks won in Wellington. England's 2019 semifinal win was probably the most emphatic example, but Argentina (2020), the Boks (again) and now Ireland have all filled their boots.
I have no confidence in Foster and Plumtree being able to turn it around.
Re: Autumn Matches
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:07 am
by zer0
As it is, I'm more excited for the Blues season than the All Blacks ffs.
Re: Autumn Matches
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:25 pm
by morepork
Angry JAFA.
Re: Autumn Matches
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:57 pm
by J Dory
MP will be a closet Blues supporter next season, his RTS love runs deep.
Re: Autumn Matches
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 8:23 pm
by morepork
Big mad stepping thighs, big fasi tackles, and a genuine role model for Polynesian kids everywhere. Ruben Wiki and Olsen Filipaina rolled into one. Every one loves RTS.
Re: Autumn Matches
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 8:46 pm
by J Dory
No argument from me.
Re: Autumn Matches
Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:39 am
by zer0
morepork wrote:Angry JAFA.
Imma come give you the rona, beach.
Re: Autumn Matches
Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:57 pm
by Banquo
Beauden dropped?
Re: Autumn Matches
Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:43 pm
by morepork
Out with a bashed heed. Jesus Fozzie is gambling on the loosies a bit, no?