Quins v Exeter Sat 3pm

[Mikey Brown]

I thought it was clear I was referring to the idea that two players can’t be red carded at once. I wasn’t meaning to suggest they had intent to injure, but I think they were both reckless and that could have a been an absolutely horrific injury for anybody with a visible neck.

My point with Simmonds was more that while lifting Marlers leg he has hooked his shoulder and is leaning in a way that can only lead Marler head first to the ground. Looked to me like Hepburn just makes it a more dramatic flip, but at this point I’m really not sure why I’m continuing to argue about it. There’s a degree that it’s just one of those mad rugby things though.

[Puja]

Red for Simmonds as well IMO. Don’t get why he gets away with that at all. That could so easily have been a broken neck for anyone that isn’t built like Marler.

Also Marler should definitely have to go for an HIA after an incident like that. Very strange that always gets overlooked in those situations that aren’t a head-on-head.

No. For starters without Hepburn joining in Marler never gets tipped onto his neck and secondly Simmonds attempts to put him down safely.

Quins have made really hard work of playing against 14 men, good job they didn't play in the rain last season because on a wet day they've blown three tries.

Didn't see this game but have just seen the replay of the Marler clear out. How on earth are you claiming that Simmonds 'attempts to put him down safely'? He does nothing to slow the fall of Marler onto the top of his head at all. Simmonds was already in the process of lifting him up above horizontal before Hepburn came in and finished the job.

I'm with you and Mikey - Simmonds was the one that picked him up and lifted him initially and so I'd say he was the one mainly at fault. Hepburn definitely exacerbates the situation, but it's Simmonds who instigates it.

I'm willing to bet Hepburn gets his red overturned on appeal, simply because he'll be able to argue that he wasn't solely responsible.

Puja

[twitchy]

Well done quins. No issue with the card. I did think exe were going to hang on but the better team won in the end.