RugbyRebels

Carberry lost control of the ball, and Ioane never actually made contact with his head at any point in the tackle.

The ball left Smith's hand backwards hen he slapped it backwards.

Both were fairly clear-cut and I don't get how there'd be any controversy over either.

cashead wrote:Carberry lost control of the ball, and Ioane never actually made contact with his head at any point in the tackle.

The ball left Smith's hand backwards hen he slapped it backwards.

Both were fairly clear-cut and I don't get how there'd be any controversy over either.

I thought the Carberry one was right (and great tackle). The Smith one looked forward to me - I don't think the momentum / backwards movement point counts when you are just slapping at it.

Between the ball leaving Smith's hand, and the first bounce, it doesn't travel forwards. hth.

cashead wrote:
Both were fairly clear-cut and I don't get how there'd be any controversy over either.

You must be new to these boards, welcome!

cashead wrote:Between the ball leaving Smith's hand, and the first bounce, it doesn't travel forwards. hth.

Just seen more replays and I think you are right. They never seemed to get the fully side on replay that would have made it clear.

I actually think the yellow NZ did get was very harsh. He was a long way from the ruck and you'd think Murray could have avoided him.

He knocked it back like wot athletic players do keeping a ball in the air over the sideline in play.