RugbyRebels

Stom wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 6:13 am

Banquo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:17 pm

Stom wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:08 pm

I must have missed that because I feel like this is new for me.

And it's interesting how differently we see Furbank. Because I see his lack of pace and feel like he's Goode mkII. And that's not what I would want in my FB. Maybe that's also my bias creeping in as my biggest rugby watching years were spent with Mike Brown as Quins' FB, and I very much liked the way he hit the line, compared to Goode/Furbank, who hit it closer in, and perhaps look to bring others into play a bit more.

It's also interesting that this has stemmed out of Malins moving to play FB, when I see him as having that converted FH skillset to allow him to hit the line at IC effectively, but he's also got the pace to run those lovely lines between the OC and wings.

Furbank does not lack pace or running ability. Nothing like Goode either, imo almost opposite strengths and weaknesses. Furbank plies his attacking trade out wide so I am puzzled all round

I'm getting confused now...

Banquo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:41 am

Stom wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 6:13 am

Banquo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:17 pm

Furbank does not lack pace or running ability. Nothing like Goode either, imo almost opposite strengths and weaknesses. Furbank plies his attacking trade out wide so I am puzzled all round

I'm getting confused now...

also puzzled by your characterisation of Brown, who spent an awful lot of attacking time hitting it up close in, and wasn't exactly renowned for his gas; he did become quick enough for intl rugby after a long period working in his speed.

Oakboy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:47 am

Banquo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:41 am

Stom wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 6:13 am

I'm getting confused now...

also puzzled by your characterisation of Brown, who spent an awful lot of attacking time hitting it up close in, and wasn't exactly renowned for his gas; he did become quick enough for intl rugby after a long period working in his speed.

Let's face it, even Jones was confused about Brown - thought he was a winger!!

Oakboy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:46 am Does a balanced RWC squad need a player who can play FH or FB? If so, might a spot be between Malins and Furbank?

Banquo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:59 am

Oakboy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:46 am Does a balanced RWC squad need a player who can play FH or FB? If so, might a spot be between Malins and Furbank?

yes or no, depends on rest of squad. Malins would need to get a bit more time there if so- as above, I think its his more likely to be his best position.

Banquo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:17 pm

Stom wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:08 pm

Mellsblue wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 8:44 pm
He’s had five caps, including one at 10 and one off the bench. His first two were in very heavy rain which is a nightmare for any 15, especially one whose strengths lie in attack.
They’re both exactly the same age so the time to improve on weaknesses should be similar. Furbank is still pretty new to the position having, to the best of my knowledge, played 10 or 12 throughout his junior career so his major weakness, positioning, will only improve. I fear Porter’s heavy/slow feet in d will only get heavier/slower.
Anyway we’ve been over this ad nauseam so I’ll leave it there.

I must have missed that because I feel like this is new for me.

And it's interesting how differently we see Furbank. Because I see his lack of pace and feel like he's Goode mkII. And that's not what I would want in my FB. Maybe that's also my bias creeping in as my biggest rugby watching years were spent with Mike Brown as Quins' FB, and I very much liked the way he hit the line, compared to Goode/Furbank, who hit it closer in, and perhaps look to bring others into play a bit more.

It's also interesting that this has stemmed out of Malins moving to play FB, when I see him as having that converted FH skillset to allow him to hit the line at IC effectively, but he's also got the pace to run those lovely lines between the OC and wings.

I am puzzled all round

Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:58 am I just struggle with anybody playing flyhalf as a part-time/alternate position. Just can’t see either option getting meaningful, consistent gametime at 10 for their clubs, as much as it’s great to have back 3 options who can cover there in an emergency. Do either kick at goal at all?

Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:58 am I just struggle with anybody playing flyhalf as a part-time/alternate position. Just can’t see either option getting meaningful, consistent gametime at 10 for their clubs, as much as it’s great to have back 3 options who can cover there in an emergency. Do either kick at goal at all?

Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:48 pm #daly4england

Banquo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 5:15 pm

Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:58 am I just struggle with anybody playing flyhalf as a part-time/alternate position. Just can’t see either option getting meaningful, consistent gametime at 10 for their clubs, as much as it’s great to have back 3 options who can cover there in an emergency. Do either kick at goal at all?

agreed. We don't need to, either.

Banquo wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:49 pm

Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:48 pm #daly4england

@11

Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 7:10 pm Where is May anyway? Has he been playing? Been a bizarre period for him what feels like very shortly after being the best wing in the world.