Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:30 am
Pretty sure we'll also get the ABINO conceding 50 at some stage while we're at it.
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Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:13 pm
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:37 pm
A combination of old boys network and cOnTiNuItY.canta_brian wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:13 pmThis isn’t a secret in NZ right? How come the suits have stuck with him so long?
The appointment process was an absolute farce - a formality designed to appoint Ian Foster into the Ian Foster-shaped hole left by Steve Hansen. Other, better, and more qualified candidates were overlooked or basically told the NZRU to eat shit because of it.
The NZRU preached continuity when they appointed Foster. When you look at other test-level teams, the coaches' ideas start to get worked out and they start eating shit in the results after 5 or 6 years. Case in point Eddie O'Sullivan, who had the Irish Golden Generation of O'Gara, O'Driscoll, O'Connell, O'Kelly, etc., and couldn't do a single fucking thing with them in the 2007 RWC, because his team had been worked out, and were clearly jaded big-time. Hell, Gordon Tietjens was at the top of the NZ 7s programme for 12 years, and his ideas and tactics had been worked out by 2015/2016, leading to a calamitous Olympics campaign in 2016. Laidlaw, after steadying the ship, had the good sense to fuck off after 5 years and try his hand at the full game with the Hurricanes. Basically, coaches and their ideas, unless they're able to keep reinventing themselves, will inevitably get worked out and struggle with results after 5 years or so, 6 tops.
Fundamentally, there hasn't been a significant change in ideology at the top for 20 years with the All Blacks In Name Only.
That plus the fact that Mark Robinson doesn't know what the fuck he's doing, and has all the ability to read the room that a literal potato has.
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:39 pm
Could’ve been worse. You could've hired Gatland.cashead wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:37 pmA combination of old boys network and cOnTiNuItY.canta_brian wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:13 pmThis isn’t a secret in NZ right? How come the suits have stuck with him so long?
The appointment process was an absolute farce - a formality designed to appoint Ian Foster into the Ian Foster-shaped hole left by Steve Hansen. Other, better, and more qualified candidates were overlooked or basically told the NZRU to eat shit because of it.
That plus the fact that Mark Robinson doesn't know what the fuck he's doing, and has all the ability to read the room that a literal potato has.
Puja
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 9:48 pm
Gats got the job done against Fiji the other night. Superb display and Fiji never in itPuja wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:39 pmCould’ve been worse. You could've hired Gatland.cashead wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:37 pmA combination of old boys network and cOnTiNuItY.canta_brian wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:13 pm
This isn’t a secret in NZ right? How come the suits have stuck with him so long?
The appointment process was an absolute farce - a formality designed to appoint Ian Foster into the Ian Foster-shaped hole left by Steve Hansen. Other, better, and more qualified candidates were overlooked or basically told the NZRU to eat shit because of it.
That plus the fact that Mark Robinson doesn't know what the fuck he's doing, and has all the ability to read the room that a literal potato has.
Puja
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 9:49 pm
That sounds about right, and a recipe for disappointmentcashead wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:37 pmA combination of old boys network and cOnTiNuItY.canta_brian wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:13 pmThis isn’t a secret in NZ right? How come the suits have stuck with him so long?
The appointment process was an absolute farce - a formality designed to appoint Ian Foster into the Ian Foster-shaped hole left by Steve Hansen. Other, better, and more qualified candidates were overlooked or basically told the NZRU to eat shit because of it.
The NZRU preached continuity when they appointed Foster. When you look at other test-level teams, the coaches' ideas start to get worked out and they start eating shit in the results after 5 or 6 years. Case in point Eddie O'Sullivan, who had the Irish Golden Generation of O'Gara, O'Driscoll, O'Connell, O'Kelly, etc., and couldn't do a single fucking thing with them in the 2007 RWC, because his team had been worked out, and were clearly jaded big-time. Hell, Gordon Tietjens was at the top of the NZ 7s programme for 12 years, and his ideas and tactics had been worked out by 2015/2016, leading to a calamitous Olympics campaign in 2016. Laidlaw, after steadying the ship, had the good sense to fuck off after 5 years and try his hand at the full game with the Hurricanes. Basically, coaches and their ideas, unless they're able to keep reinventing themselves, will inevitably get worked out and struggle with results after 5 years or so, 6 tops.
Fundamentally, there hasn't been a significant change in ideology at the top for 20 years with the All Blacks In Name Only.
That plus the fact that Mark Robinson doesn't know what the fuck he's doing, and has all the ability to read the room that a literal potato has.
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:10 pm
The early appointment of Robertson to replace Foster has even robbed us of the chance to call for Fozzie’s head. It’s already rolling down the aisle.
It breaks my heart to see Foster fail. He was the 10 for the Waikato team of my youth that knocked the invincible late ‘80s/early ‘90s Auckland off their perch. Took the Shield, won the championship. Captained by John Mitchell. Loe, Gatland, Purvis up front. Monkley on the side of the scrum. Matthew Cooper at FB. Fucking great team.
It breaks my heart to see Foster fail. He was the 10 for the Waikato team of my youth that knocked the invincible late ‘80s/early ‘90s Auckland off their perch. Took the Shield, won the championship. Captained by John Mitchell. Loe, Gatland, Purvis up front. Monkley on the side of the scrum. Matthew Cooper at FB. Fucking great team.
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2023 8:56 am
That is a generous interpretation...canta_brian wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 9:48 pmGats got the job done against Fiji the other night. Superb display and Fiji never in itPuja wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:39 pmCould’ve been worse. You could've hired Gatland.cashead wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:37 pm
A combination of old boys network and cOnTiNuItY.
The appointment process was an absolute farce - a formality designed to appoint Ian Foster into the Ian Foster-shaped hole left by Steve Hansen. Other, better, and more qualified candidates were overlooked or basically told the NZRU to eat shit because of it.
That plus the fact that Mark Robinson doesn't know what the fuck he's doing, and has all the ability to read the room that a literal potato has.
Puja
Puja
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2023 2:19 pm
Dan Carter also pays a load of big tributes to Fozzie bear in his self help tome.Lizard wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:10 pm The early appointment of Robertson to replace Foster has even robbed us of the chance to call for Fozzie’s head. It’s already rolling down the aisle.
It breaks my heart to see Foster fail. He was the 10 for the Waikato team of my youth that knocked the invincible late ‘80s/early ‘90s Auckland off their perch. Took the Shield, won the championship. Captained by John Mitchell. Loe, Gatland, Purvis up front. Monkley on the side of the scrum. Matthew Cooper at FB. Fucking great team.
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2023 7:57 pm
You think?Puja wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 8:56 amThat is a generous interpretation...canta_brian wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 9:48 pmGats got the job done against Fiji the other night. Superb display and Fiji never in it
Puja
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2023 10:34 pm
I've got no complaints about his tenure as assistant...Banquo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 2:19 pmDan Carter also pays a load of big tributes to Fozzie bear in his self help tome.Lizard wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:10 pm The early appointment of Robertson to replace Foster has even robbed us of the chance to call for Fozzie’s head. It’s already rolling down the aisle.
It breaks my heart to see Foster fail. He was the 10 for the Waikato team of my youth that knocked the invincible late ‘80s/early ‘90s Auckland off their perch. Took the Shield, won the championship. Captained by John Mitchell. Loe, Gatland, Purvis up front. Monkley on the side of the scrum. Matthew Cooper at FB. Fucking great team.
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2023 12:26 am
Ken Doll Carter...if not for rugby he would be a reality TV presence in the regions, at best.
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2023 12:57 am
I haven’t read his self-help book and have no plans to. His “auto”-biography was one of the dullest things I have read. At least Corey Jane had the sense to have his ghost writer put some entertaining bullshit into his one.
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2023 12:40 pm
Poor Dan. Seems a decent guy and a great player.
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:21 pm
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2023 8:45 am
Still learning from St Jonny, I see
Re: France v All Blacks
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:51 am
How dare you! Warren 'Quicksilver' Gatland is always reinventing himself.Puja wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:39 pmCould’ve been worse. You could've hired Gatland.cashead wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:37 pmA combination of old boys network and cOnTiNuItY.canta_brian wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:13 pm
This isn’t a secret in NZ right? How come the suits have stuck with him so long?
The appointment process was an absolute farce - a formality designed to appoint Ian Foster into the Ian Foster-shaped hole left by Steve Hansen. Other, better, and more qualified candidates were overlooked or basically told the NZRU to eat shit because of it.
That plus the fact that Mark Robinson doesn't know what the fuck he's doing, and has all the ability to read the room that a literal potato has.
Puja