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In light of our 9 options Quirke is in good company for basic mistakes. The difference is his good is exceptional.

p/d wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2024 3:06 pm In light of our 9 options Quirke is in good company for basic mistakes. The difference is his good is exceptional.

Very true but some of the errors are farking glaring and stupid. He tried one ridiculous offload/pass right in front of me vs Exe which lead to Sale going from Exe’s 22 back into their own and then he compounded it with a v stupid penalty. No point rushing him into the Eng now that Mitchell is back, imo.

0 vs 38, 68 v 10 and 40 v 0 at half time. Not a good look for the Prem so far!

Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2024 3:22 pm

p/d wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2024 3:06 pm In light of our 9 options Quirke is in good company for basic mistakes. The difference is his good is exceptional.

Very true but some of the errors are farking glaring and stupid. He tried one ridiculous offload/pass right in front of me vs Exe which lead to Sale going from Exe’s 22 back into their own and then he compounded it with a v stupid penalty. No point rushing him into the Eng now that Mitchell is back, imo.

Fair do’s. That said, unlike some, I really don’t rate JVP that highly. So Mitchell and Quirke plus another young pretender works for me.

p/d wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2024 4:29 pm

Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2024 3:22 pm

p/d wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2024 3:06 pm In light of our 9 options Quirke is in good company for basic mistakes. The difference is his good is exceptional.

Very true but some of the errors are farking glaring and stupid. He tried one ridiculous offload/pass right in front of me vs Exe which lead to Sale going from Exe’s 22 back into their own and then he compounded it with a v stupid penalty. No point rushing him into the Eng now that Mitchell is back, imo.

Fair do’s. That said, unlike some, I really don’t rate JVP that highly. So Mitchell and Quirke plus another young pretender works for me.

It's strange how perception of talent varies. I can remember getting pilloried on here for suggesting Mitchell at 9 (well before he was picked). Then, JVP was the one, with his injury departure from the RWC causing much gnashing of teeth. Mitchell returns and excels. Always (in my mind, anyway), the best option once fitness/form returned, was Quirke. Now, he looks erratic at best. He might need to change clubs to find consistency and fulfil potential, I suspect. I don't think he's a good mix with Ford.

Oakboy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 29, 2024 8:43 am

p/d wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2024 4:29 pm

Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2024 3:22 pm

Very true but some of the errors are farking glaring and stupid. He tried one ridiculous offload/pass right in front of me vs Exe which lead to Sale going from Exe’s 22 back into their own and then he compounded it with a v stupid penalty. No point rushing him into the Eng now that Mitchell is back, imo.

Fair do’s. That said, unlike some, I really don’t rate JVP that highly. So Mitchell and Quirke plus another young pretender works for me.

It's strange how perception of talent varies. I can remember getting pilloried on here for suggesting Mitchell at 9 (well before he was picked). Then, JVP was the one, with his injury departure from the RWC causing much gnashing of teeth. Mitchell returns and excels. Always (in my mind, anyway), the best option once fitness/form returned, was Quirke. Now, he looks erratic at best. He might need to change clubs to find consistency and fulfil potential, I suspect. I don't think he's a good mix with Ford.

Mitchell had some pretty iffy moments early in his England career. To be fair to him he went away and improved areas of his game and went from fourth to first choice for the world cup. His kicking game used to be a bit of a weakness and now it's a real strength. We could do with some of the other scrum halves following his example really (particularly Harry Randall a scrum half with a below average pass and a terrible kicking game).

Quirke needs game time, not all players bounce back from injury straight back to form. JvP is still not back to his best after 9/10 months out, but getting closer. Quirke really hasn't played much rugby, only 5 starts in each of the last two seasons. His development is going to be behind where it should be as well. A degree of patience is probably required.

Thats spot on about Quirke. He really has played very little rugby over the last couple of seasons. He's a talent that needs an uninterrupted run of games.