England Depth Chart

[Banquo]

I wonder if Jack will ever come back. He's had potentially career ending injuries in a white shirt, is outstanding at Toulouse, he and his family must enjoy living there (or they wouldn't have hung about for 3 years) and is probably on some good cheese.

Short of Toulouse suddenly deciding they won't or can't renew his contract, whenever that's up, or maybe wanting to be closer to the wider family, I don't know why he'd bother.

well....international rugby? But fair points- and the french sides certainly seem better able to keep historical sick notes gainfully employed.

[Tigersman]

I mean Toulouse is wonderful but if he has a realistic chance of winning a RWC in 2 years time I don't see why he wouldn't have a season or two in England.

[Danno]

I mean Toulouse is wonderful but if he has a realistic chance of winning a RWC in 2 years time I don't see why he wouldn't have a season or two in England.

That's a bigger stretch than my cat does after an 11 hour nap, but point taken

[Puja]

I wonder if Jack will ever come back. He's had potentially career ending injuries in a white shirt, is outstanding at Toulouse, he and his family must enjoy living there (or they wouldn't have hung about for 3 years) and is probably on some good cheese.

Short of Toulouse suddenly deciding they won't or can't renew his contract, whenever that's up, or maybe wanting to be closer to the wider family, I don't know why he'd bother.

I don't see it happening. He's signed on for another 2 or 3 years IIRC, he's earning a decent wedge, he's utterly beloved there, it's a beautiful place to be, and the only downside is not playing for England, which he wouldn't be guaranteed of even if he did return, given the competition in his positions.

Puja

[Captainhaircut]

I wonder if Jack will ever come back. He's had potentially career ending injuries in a white shirt, is outstanding at Toulouse, he and his family must enjoy living there (or they wouldn't have hung about for 3 years) and is probably on some good cheese.

Short of Toulouse suddenly deciding they won't or can't renew his contract, whenever that's up, or maybe wanting to be closer to the wider family, I don't know why he'd bother.

I don't see it happening. He's signed on for another 2 or 3 years IIRC, he's earning a decent wedge, he's utterly beloved there, it's a beautiful place to be, and the only downside is not playing for England, which he wouldn't be guaranteed of even if he did return, given the competition in his positions.

Puja

That’s the crux of it isn’t it. He went to the World Cup and barely played before his injury. Competing with Curry x 2, Underhill, pollock, earl and his own brother to get a game for England. Not guaranteed in any way- look at Zach Mercer.

[francoisfou]

I wonder if Jack will ever come back. He's had potentially career ending injuries in a white shirt, is outstanding at Toulouse, he and his family must enjoy living there (or they wouldn't have hung about for 3 years) and is probably on some good cheese.

Short of Toulouse suddenly deciding they won't or can't renew his contract, whenever that's up, or maybe wanting to be closer to the wider family, I don't know why he'd bother.

I don't see it happening. He's signed on for another 2 or 3 years IIRC, he's earning a decent wedge, he's utterly beloved there, it's a beautiful place to be, and the only downside is not playing for England, which he wouldn't be guaranteed of even if he did return, given the competition in his positions.

Puja

Yes, the Toulouse supporters adore Jack « Weeleece », and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he stayed here until he retires, unless he really wants to have a real crack at playing for England, but he’d need to choose an English club carefully to help him achieve this goal. I’m persuaded that if Zach Mercer hadn’t gone to Gloucester and had chosen another then he may well be in the mix today.

[Banquo]

I wonder if Jack will ever come back. He's had potentially career ending injuries in a white shirt, is outstanding at Toulouse, he and his family must enjoy living there (or they wouldn't have hung about for 3 years) and is probably on some good cheese.

Short of Toulouse suddenly deciding they won't or can't renew his contract, whenever that's up, or maybe wanting to be closer to the wider family, I don't know why he'd bother.

I don't see it happening. He's signed on for another 2 or 3 years IIRC, he's earning a decent wedge, he's utterly beloved there, it's a beautiful place to be, and the only downside is not playing for England, which he wouldn't be guaranteed of even if he did return, given the competition in his positions.

Puja

That’s the crux of it isn’t it. He went to the World Cup and barely played before his injury. Competing with Curry x 2, Underhill, pollock, earl and his own brother to get a game for England. Not guaranteed in any way- look at Zach Mercer.

He either backs himself or 'settles' for a very good life

[Danno]

I wonder if Jack will ever come back. He's had potentially career ending injuries in a white shirt, is outstanding at Toulouse, he and his family must enjoy living there (or they wouldn't have hung about for 3 years) and is probably on some good cheese.

Short of Toulouse suddenly deciding they won't or can't renew his contract, whenever that's up, or maybe wanting to be closer to the wider family, I don't know why he'd bother.

I don't see it happening. He's signed on for another 2 or 3 years IIRC, he's earning a decent wedge, he's utterly beloved there, it's a beautiful place to be, and the only downside is not playing for England, which he wouldn't be guaranteed of even if he did return, given the competition in his positions.

Puja

Jack « Weeleece »

Haven't giggled like this at something on this board since 'Jonker in de Bonker' from a few years back

[FKAS]

I don't see it happening. He's signed on for another 2 or 3 years IIRC, he's earning a decent wedge, he's utterly beloved there, it's a beautiful place to be, and the only downside is not playing for England, which he wouldn't be guaranteed of even if he did return, given the competition in his positions.

Puja

That’s the crux of it isn’t it. He went to the World Cup and barely played before his injury. Competing with Curry x 2, Underhill, pollock, earl and his own brother to get a game for England. Not guaranteed in any way- look at Zach Mercer.

He either backs himself or 'settles' for a very good life

I suspect he'll settle for the good life. Hefty wage, good playing environment all in the south of France. Could be a lot worse, for instance he was in Coventry before that.

[Oakboy]

Maybe, the Lions snub will confirm his belief that he's best off where he is.

[Banquo]

Maybe, the Lions snub will confirm his belief that he's best off where he is.

hardly a snub, he's not played international rugby for a long while in selection of Lions terms.

[Danno]

Maybe, the Lions snub will confirm his belief that he's best off where he is.

hardly a snub, he's not played international rugby for a long while in selection of Lions terms.

Agreed. He's (by all accounts) doing an amazing job there but hasn't played an international since..... 2022?

[Puja]

Maybe, the Lions snub will confirm his belief that he's best off where he is.

hardly a snub, he's not played international rugby for a long while in selection of Lions terms.

Agreed. He's (by all accounts) doing an amazing job there but hasn't played an international since..... 2022?

And wouldn't've been available until the 4th game of the tour. I wouldn't've taken him either with that restriction.

Puja

[Banquo]

Maybe, the Lions snub will confirm his belief that he's best off where he is.

hardly a snub, he's not played international rugby for a long while in selection of Lions terms.

Agreed. He's (by all accounts) doing an amazing job there but hasn't played an international since..... 2022?

Indeed- I would love him to be available for us, very different to the other contenders.

[Oakboy]

Maybe, the Lions snub will confirm his belief that he's best off where he is.

hardly a snub, he's not played international rugby for a long while in selection of Lions terms.

Will he qualify for France if he stays there? I reckon he'd get picked if he did.

[TheNomad]

Maybe, the Lions snub will confirm his belief that he's best off where he is.

COuld you not make the argument that he wouldn't have been snubbed by the lions if he'd been playing in the 6Ns, or am I missing somehting?

He could still tour in the future - he's got one left in him, even after this IMO

[Banquo]

Maybe, the Lions snub will confirm his belief that he's best off where he is.

hardly a snub, he's not played international rugby for a long while in selection of Lions terms.

Will he qualify for France if he stays there? I reckon he'd get picked if he did.

Not sure he would, their back rows are very good, but very different.

[FKAS]

https://archive.ph/7Kv6v

A bit on Emeka Ilione. I thought he'd slowed down on his studies but nope, apparently between rugby and medicine he's doing pretty much 12 hour days 7 days a week.

[Banquo]

https://archive.ph/7Kv6v

A bit on Emeka Ilione. I thought he'd slowed down on his studies but nope, apparently between rugby and medicine he's doing pretty much 12 hour days 7 days a week.

That's amazing- Jamie Roberts did it, but iirc staggered it out somehow. Hopefully it'll all pay off/come together.

[Puja]

Maybe, the Lions snub will confirm his belief that he's best off where he is.

hardly a snub, he's not played international rugby for a long while in selection of Lions terms.

Will he qualify for France if he stays there? I reckon he'd get picked if he did.

No - you can't switch nationality based on residency. Because he's capped by England, he can only swap to someone he's eligible for based on ancestry or birthplace.

Puja

[Mikey Brown]

hardly a snub, he's not played international rugby for a long while in selection of Lions terms.

Will he qualify for France if he stays there? I reckon he'd get picked if he did.

No - you can't switch nationality based on residency. Because he's capped by England, he can only swap to someone he's eligible for based on ancestry or birthplace.

And that’s the end of it and we shall never speak of him again.

Puja

Well said.

[Danno]

Ooooh is he [Radacted the Second]?