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no sleep wrote:

ARM wrote:I might go and buy a cat just so I can toe-end it down the garden.

Bet an Irishman would pop up and catch it.

I’d probably drop it first.

Pack got destroyed there.

Backs weren't the problem but thought Laidlaw was poor for the usual reasons plus his box kicking just doesn't go high or far enough; Russel, Maitland and Johnson were okay; Taylor was poor and we've boxed ourselves into playing Harris - I still don't get giving up on having any spark at 13; Seymour was average and needs to be behind Graham; Hogg was very good.

I can't be bothered with fixing the grammar.

Overall systems we just aren't as good as Ireland. Kick chase and shepherding chasers is just one example.

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Cameo wrote:Pack got destroyed there.

Backs weren't the problem but thought Laidlaw was poor for the usual reasons plus his box kicking just doesn't go high or far enough; Russel, Maitland and Johnson were okay; Taylor was poor and we've boxed ourselves into playing Harris - I still don't get giving up on having any spark at 13; Seymour was average and needs to be behind Graham; Hogg was very good.

I can't be bothered with fixing the grammar.

Overall systems we just aren't as good as Ireland. Kick chase and shepherding chasers is just one example.

There were some comments earlier that Taylor was good, which I didn't see myself. He's not quick enough off the mark for international rugby at 13. Tend to think it's unfair to judge outside backs too harshly in that sort of game though so postponing judgement.

What I would say is that we pick two hard running, direct centres and proceeded to play with no depth. Ireland's line speed was phenomenal but you'd still expect to see them hit the line at speed at least once.

Anyone see Eddie Jones' reaction in the coaching box on 25.5 mins to a silly basic error that Maro/Billy made? F*cking furious and you know damn well they will hear about that after the game even if they thump Tonga. Night and day from our "it's okay sweetheart, you'll do better next time" mentality.

hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Anyone see Eddie Jones' reaction in the coaching box on 25.5 mins to a silly basic error that Maro/Billy made? F*cking furious and you know damn well they will hear about that after the game even if they thump Tonga. Night and day from our "it's okay sweetheart, you'll do better next time" mentality.

Do you have some inside knowledge or is this just supposition?

switchskier wrote:

hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Anyone see Eddie Jones' reaction in the coaching box on 25.5 mins to a silly basic error that Maro/Billy made? F*cking furious and you know damn well they will hear about that after the game even if they thump Tonga. Night and day from our "it's okay sweetheart, you'll do better next time" mentality.

Do you have some inside knowledge or is this just supposition?

To still be making the same basic mistakes years on is all the evidence you need, no?

hugh_woatmeigh wrote:

switchskier wrote:

hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Anyone see Eddie Jones' reaction in the coaching box on 25.5 mins to a silly basic error that Maro/Billy made? F*cking furious and you know damn well they will hear about that after the game even if they thump Tonga. Night and day from our "it's okay sweetheart, you'll do better next time" mentality.

Do you have some inside knowledge or is this just supposition?

To still be making the same basic mistakes years on is all the evidence you need, no?

It's been going on for years with multiple different players. I don't assume that every coach has the same approach or why would we bother to change them?

Have Glasgow got much better under Rennie? Have read on other forums that he would be next in line for the coach job.

General Zod wrote:Have Glasgow got much better under Rennie? Have read on other forums that he would be next in line for the coach job.

I think he's made them more consistent but they have a lower performance ceiling if that makes sense. He's also done it with a lot less and will have to continue doing it with less now Hoggy is gone. Rennie would still need to be surrounded by a top defence coach & forwards coach.

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'We got battered' - Hogg

FT: Ireland 27-3 Scotland

Scotland full-back Stuart Hogg tells BBC Radio Scotland: "I've never been involved in a Scotland camp that the preparation has been as spot-on and unfortunately we’ve just not stood up and we’ve been battered.

"I’d love to be able to tell you but we had a game plan in play to try and disrupt and score points and unfortunately we didn’t get into the flow of the game. Ireland put us under a lot of pressure and full credit to them. Out wide there was space but we didn’t find ourselves with much time on the ball.

"We’ve got the quality within the squad to bounce back now. It’s all about reviewing this in a positive light and making sure we learn from our mistakes.""

One wonders just how many mistakes a pro sportsman has to make before he actually starts learning from them.

And, after that display, the idea that world cup preparation was in any way meaningful is just bullshit.

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hugh_woatmeigh wrote:

General Zod wrote:Have Glasgow got much better under Rennie? Have read on other forums that he would be next in line for the coach job.

I think he's made them more consistent but they have a lower performance ceiling if that makes sense. He's also done it with a lot less and will have to continue doing it with less now Hoggy is gone. Rennie would still need to be surrounded by a top defence coach & forwards coach.

I agree with this. Was at the sarries game and they were miles off. They also scored a good try early, made a mistake from the restart and the game went from there.

I wonder how much O'halloran has fo to with the way Glasgow backs play. He had started to get a tune out of Scotlsnd prior to getting punted.

Get an Edward's, O'Halloran and AN other coaching team.

The biggest embarrassment for me is that they don't look fit. They should be in peak condition.

Big D wrote: The biggest embarrassment for me is that they don't look fit. They should be in peak condition.

Stuart Yule (ex national weightlifter) assisted by Sean Lamont.

Yule had been at Glasgow since 2007 and they've always been quite a fit team (as have Scotland) so I don't think it's a lack of experience - they've fucked something up in terms of planning/timing for sure.

ARM wrote:I might go and buy a cat just so I can toe-end it down the garden.

I am sorry lads, I really am. But this post made me fecking roar with laffs. The Mrs has just asked what is so funny and it is impossible to explain the combination of such bitter (and understandable) frustration with explosive casual cruelty!

Hope things aren’t as bad as initially thought with Hamish’s knee.

Donny osmond wrote:"
'We got battered' - Hogg

FT: Ireland 27-3 Scotland

Scotland full-back Stuart Hogg tells BBC Radio Scotland: "I've never been involved in a Scotland camp that the preparation has been as spot-on and unfortunately we’ve just not stood up and we’ve been battered.

"I’d love to be able to tell you but we had a game plan in play to try and disrupt and score points and unfortunately we didn’t get into the flow of the game. Ireland put us under a lot of pressure and full credit to them. Out wide there was space but we didn’t find ourselves with much time on the ball.

"We’ve got the quality within the squad to bounce back now. It’s all about reviewing this in a positive light and making sure we learn from our mistakes.""

One wonders just how many mistakes a pro sportsman has to make before he actually starts learning from them.

And, after that display, the idea that world cup preparation was in any way meaningful is just bullshit.

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And the head coach. We play Ireland enough, yet Hogg sounds surprised that they had the ability to batter us. We keep hearing all this preparation bollocks, it wasn't evident in the warm ups and it sure as shit isn't evident now. We look unfit, clueless and completely lacking in confidence.

switchskier wrote:

Cameo wrote:Pack got destroyed there.

Backs weren't the problem but thought Laidlaw was poor for the usual reasons plus his box kicking just doesn't go high or far enough; Russel, Maitland and Johnson were okay; Taylor was poor and we've boxed ourselves into playing Harris - I still don't get giving up on having any spark at 13; Seymour was average and needs to be behind Graham; Hogg was very good.

I can't be bothered with fixing the grammar.

Overall systems we just aren't as good as Ireland. Kick chase and shepherding chasers is just one example.

There were some comments earlier that Taylor was good, which I didn't see myself. He's not quick enough off the mark for international rugby at 13. Tend to think it's unfair to judge outside backs too harshly in that sort of game though so postponing judgement.

What I would say is that we pick two hard running, direct centres and proceeded to play with no depth. Ireland's line speed was phenomenal but you'd still expect to see them hit the line at speed at least once.

He was responsible for two turnovers (I don’t think there were many more Scottish turnovers in the game) and looked to be sharper than most on the pitch when a ball went loose.

"We didn't start with the energy, accuracy and aggression that is required to beat a team like Ireland."

When asked why, in a match of such magnitude, his players lacked those qualities, Townsend replied: "That's what we're asking each other. The energy wasn't as high as it has to be to beat a team like Ireland."

... So he doesn't know?

You'll all be glad to know Toony peddled the ever so common "we'll be much better against our next opponent" line.

SerjeantWildgoose wrote:

ARM wrote:I might go and buy a cat just so I can toe-end it down the garden.

I am sorry lads, I really am. But this post made me fecking roar with laffs. The Mrs has just asked what is so funny and it is impossible to explain the combination of such bitter (and understandable) frustration with explosive casual cruelty!

Hope things aren’t as bad as initially thought with Hamish’s knee.

Christ. If you’re over here being all nicey nicey then we really must be in the shit.

hugh_woatmeigh wrote:You'll all be glad to know Toony peddled the ever so common "we'll be much better against our next opponent" line.

Yeah, all the usual pish. I'm completely fed up of the guy now.

Mikey Brown wrote:

SerjeantWildgoose wrote:

ARM wrote:I might go and buy a cat just so I can toe-end it down the garden.

I am sorry lads, I really am. But this post made me fecking roar with laffs. The Mrs has just asked what is so funny and it is impossible to explain the combination of such bitter (and understandable) frustration with explosive casual cruelty!

Hope things aren’t as bad as initially thought with Hamish’s knee.

Christ. If you’re over here being all nicey nicey then we really must be in the shit.

Ye's are all a bunch o hoores!

Does that brighten the horizon for ye?

I appreciate the sentiment but there’s no real conviction.

Pretty much how I’d sum up Scotland at the moment.

Dunno if I can bring myself to watch that. Is it just he usual shit?