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WTF? Launch on for... Dombrandt!

Which Tyler wrote:WTF? Launch on for... Dombrandt!

That was my first thought but….. either that or you take off Itoje or capt.

Why change at all?
Why Daly on - missed what 2/3 tackles within 2/3 mins

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Mellsblue wrote:

Which Tyler wrote:WTF? Launch on for... Dombrandt!

That was my first thought but….. either that or you take off Itoje or capt.

Wasn't it Dombrandt had COVID during the week as well?

Thought Randall, Dombrandt & Genge were all going well when subd. - bit like Sco. match calls tbh, in terms of knocking things out of kilter.

I hate losing to the Celts. Particularly when there is misfortune, a spirited fight back but ultimately they prove to be much more clinical. What a load of wank.

Galfon wrote:Thought Randall, Dombrandt & Genge were all going well when subd. - bit like Sco. match calls tbh, in terms of knocking things out of kilter.

I don't think it was that. We're there any scrums after genge went off? I think the Irish stopped pratting around.

Which Tyler wrote:

Mellsblue wrote:

Which Tyler wrote:WTF? Launch on for... Dombrandt!

That was my first thought but….. either that or you take off Itoje or capt.

Wasn't it Dombrandt had COVID during the week as well?

Yep, true. GPS data may have made the decision.

Hell of a game. I enjoyed that. England really dug in, but just ran out of gas.

Who in right mind subs marchant for Daly in a game like that ? I get they just have been exhausted after 14 v 15 but marchant et al all going well and subbed.

I blame Smith.

Puja

Lawes in 2nd row, Marchant at 13 Simmons to start in Paris.surely.The difference in the 2 wings contribution was notable.

Puja wrote:I blame Smith.

Puja

Robin?

Galfon wrote:Lawes in 2nd row, Marchant at 13 Simmons to start in Paris.surely.The difference in the 2 wings contribution was notable.

We didn't have any wingers. We had an extra flanker and some guy that ran about a bit

Galfon wrote:

Mr Mwenda wrote:

Galfon wrote: Could tikka while to sort the options out now..

To be honest, England have already committed hari-curry.

Sexton & POM getting aloo-gobi with the ref now..must be rattled.

Old age looking for a break, pom shouldn't be near team

Galfon wrote:Lawes in 2nd row, Marchant at 13 Simmons to start in Paris.surely.The difference in the 2 wings contribution was notable.

Yes yes and yes. Although also, while it was great to see the likes of Genge and Itoje fired up and causing chaos, and the backs chasing every kick with purpose and determination, it'd be nice if that was just the norm, rather than only happening with a backs against the wall, man down mentality.
In the end Ireland just seemed to sort themselves out in the last few minutes. Otherwise I thought they were awful and England played very bravely, but it could have been a much bigger margin of Ireland had been a bit more clinical early on.

So Gibson-Park was MoM? Whoever decided that must have thought Genge was decidedly average. Genge had what was undoubtedly his best match for England. He surely was the catalyst that fired up the England pack. Whether England would have won if Ewels hadn’t been sent off is debatable but if England had finished the game with 15 on the pitch it would have been a tighter finish. Launchbury will probably start at the SdF with maybe Chessum on the bench and Ewels should be banned from representing England for life!

Dan. Dan. Dan. wrote:

Galfon wrote:Lawes in 2nd row, Marchant at 13 Simmons to start in Paris.surely.The difference in the 2 wings contribution was notable.

Yes yes and yes. Although also, while it was great to see the likes of Genge and Itoje fired up and causing chaos, and the backs chasing every kick with purpose and determination, it'd be nice if that was just the norm, rather than only happening with a backs against the wall, man down mentality.
In the end Ireland just seemed to sort themselves out in the last few minutes. Otherwise I thought they were awful and England played very bravely, but it could have been a much bigger margin of Ireland had been a bit more clinical early on.

+1

and England ran the tank out at 70 not 80 because they were short handed. But they still don't threaten the try line much.

francoisfou wrote:So Gibson-Park was MoM? Whoever decided that must have thought Genge was decidedly average. Genge had what was undoubtedly his best match for England. He surely was the catalyst that fired up the England pack. Whether England would have won if Ewels hadn’t been sent off is debatable but if England had finished the game with 15 on the pitch it would have been a tighter finish. Launchbury will probably start at the SdF with maybe Chessum on the bench and Ewels should be banned from representing England for life!

My MOM was Ireland FB Keenan. Great under the high ball, effective counter attacker and nice line for his try. I would not even have JGP in the team. Notice the difference when Murray appeared.
I am admittedly biased, but I thought the England pack did a great con job in wheeling the scrum and then convincing the ref it was the Irish (several times.)
Fair play to the England forwards for fronting up when they were a man down for practically the entire game.
Itoje is unreal - at times he was a one man band for England out there. They would be lost without him.
The England three quarters still look quite blunt.

Spiffy wrote:

francoisfou wrote:So Gibson-Park was MoM? Whoever decided that must have thought Genge was decidedly average. Genge had what was undoubtedly his best match for England. He surely was the catalyst that fired up the England pack. Whether England would have won if Ewels hadn’t been sent off is debatable but if England had finished the game with 15 on the pitch it would have been a tighter finish. Launchbury will probably start at the SdF with maybe Chessum on the bench and Ewels should be banned from representing England for life!

My MOM was Ireland FB Keenan. Great under the high ball, effective counter attacker and nice line for his try. I would not even have JGP in the team. Notice the difference when Murray appeared.
I am admittedly biased, but I thought the England pack did a great con job in wheeling the scrum and then convincing the ref it was the Irish (several times.)
Fair play to the England forwards for fronting up when they were a man down for practically the entire game.
Itoje is unreal - at times he was a one man band for England out there. They would be lost without him.
The England three quarters still look quite blunt.

Completely agree with that spiff

Spiffy wrote:

francoisfou wrote:So Gibson-Park was MoM? Whoever decided that must have thought Genge was decidedly average. Genge had what was undoubtedly his best match for England. He surely was the catalyst that fired up the England pack. Whether England would have won if Ewels hadn’t been sent off is debatable but if England had finished the game with 15 on the pitch it would have been a tighter finish. Launchbury will probably start at the SdF with maybe Chessum on the bench and Ewels should be banned from representing England for life!

My MOM was Ireland FB Keenan. Great under the high ball, effective counter attacker and nice line for his try. I would not even have JGP in the team. Notice the difference when Murray appeared.
I am admittedly biased, but I thought the England pack did a great con job in wheeling the scrum and then convincing the ref it was the Irish (several times.)
Fair play to the England forwards for fronting up when they were a man down for practically the entire game.
Itoje is unreal - at times he was a one man band for England out there. They would be lost without him.
The England three quarters still look quite blunt.

Not sure you've got the scrum right there. At every set you could see Genge was under Furlong and then took him to the cleaners, Sink and Stuart drove straight and the Irish scrum folded.

badback wrote:Who in right mind subs marchant for Daly in a game like that ? I get they just have been exhausted after 14 v 15 but marchant et al all going well and subbed.

I dislike Eddy's approach as much as the next person but Marchant was spent. He was limping going down the sideline to go off.

Spiffy wrote:

francoisfou wrote:So Gibson-Park was MoM? Whoever decided that must have thought Genge was decidedly average. Genge had what was undoubtedly his best match for England. He surely was the catalyst that fired up the England pack. Whether England would have won if Ewels hadn’t been sent off is debatable but if England had finished the game with 15 on the pitch it would have been a tighter finish. Launchbury will probably start at the SdF with maybe Chessum on the bench and Ewels should be banned from representing England for life!

My MOM was Ireland FB Keenan. Great under the high ball, effective counter attacker and nice line for his try. I would not even have JGP in the team. Notice the difference when Murray appeared.
I am admittedly biased, but I thought the England pack did a great con job in wheeling the scrum and then convincing the ref it was the Irish (several times.)
Fair play to the England forwards for fronting up when they were a man down for practically the entire game.
Itoje is unreal - at times he was a one man band for England out there. They would be lost without him.
The England three quarters still look quite blunt.

JGP did create the crucial try and several key moments with quick taps. Hard to argue he wasn't the difference.

Puja

francoisfou wrote:So Gibson-Park was MoM? Whoever decided that must have thought Genge was decidedly average. Genge had what was undoubtedly his best match for England. He surely was the catalyst that fired up the England pack. Whether England would have won if Ewels hadn’t been sent off is debatable but if England had finished the game with 15 on the pitch it would have been a tighter finish. Launchbury will probably start at the SdF with maybe Chessum on the bench and Ewels should be banned from representing England for life!

Agreed that that was the best game we've seen out of Genge in a white shirt. Really stepped up in adversity.

Puja