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Re: Team for Scotland
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:34 pm
by Banquo
poor kicking execution, take the win tho
Re: Team for Scotland
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:35 pm
by Mr Mwenda
Glad the calcutta cup is coming back south. Glad i didn't pay to watch it
Re: Team for Scotland
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:35 pm
by twitchy
The weather just completely ruined the game. I'm glad for the points but it didn't really feel like a win. A complete dice roll.
Re: Team for Scotland
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:36 pm
by Mr Mwenda
Jesus, the narrative of england in a bad place is well boring, sonja.
Re: Team for Scotland
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:38 pm
by Raggs
Didn't like swapping ludlam and Lawes, but we ending up cutting Scotland off possession at the lineout, and didn't give them a chance to ruck.
Re: Team for Scotland
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:38 pm
by Mr Mwenda
Did any backs subs come on?
Re: Team for Scotland
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:39 pm
by Raggs
We saw Heinz and Daly kick out on the full. Heinz repeatedly. Did we see Ford do it repeatedly?
Re: Team for Scotland
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:42 pm
by Danno
Stom wrote:Which Tyler wrote:Stom wrote:
Why else are we kicking quite this much? In every situation? Either they're playing to orders or they're not fit to wear an England shirt. In which case, why the hell have they been picked.
The buck stops with the head coach.
Yup, just a witch-hunt then.
In these conditions, the coaches are the least I found risk people out there.
Fine, then Heinz, Youngs, Farrell, Daly should be dropped for atrocious rugby.
Whole squad needs to be hairdryer'd for trying to play anything other than up the jumper stuff after the whistle went.
I think I get your original point though, e.g. they were told to kick, so they kicked. And kept kicking even after the last 6 had gone out on the full or otherwise gifted possession back to Scotland. I'd argue it has a lot to do with the leaders in the squad as much as EJ, someone should have changed the call after 20mins or so to keep it close etc, and stop bunging it back to the Scots.
Re: Team for Scotland
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:56 pm
by Banquo
Kicking was poor execution, but imo not the wrong tactics generally. It was hideous out there.
Backrow looked decent, Kruis eventually mastered the lineout in attack and defence. Nothing much else to say - except we do some quite unintelligent things on a regular basis.
Re: Team for Scotland
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:57 pm
by Mikey Brown
Not quite sure what to make of Genge's interview.
Re: Team for Scotland
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:58 pm
by Banquo
Mikey Brown wrote:Not quite sure what to make of Genge's interview.
He probably shouldn’t do one again.
Players probably reading too many articles.
Re: Team for Scotland
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:00 pm
by twitchy
What did he say?
Re: Team for Scotland
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:01 pm
by Banquo
twitchy wrote:What did he say?
Slagged off the press pretty much. Not too clever
Eddie also truculent and plain wrong with his statement about dominating.
Re: Team for Scotland
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:11 pm
by jngf
Mikey Brown wrote:Not quite sure what to make of Genge's interview.
It sounded like Ricky Gervais asked to play a character with significant learning difficulties ( though to be fair he was probably cream crackered). Jones was a bit arrogant to describe England as dominating that match - yes they deserved to win but it’s hard to draw to much from a match where the only thing really dominant was storm Keira!
Re: Team for Scotland
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:13 pm
by Big D
Congrats. Not pretty but you got the job done.
Re: Team for Scotland
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:13 pm
by Danno
I enjoyed it. Shot from the hip and anyone that watched it won't have an issue.
Re: Team for Scotland
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:14 pm
by Stom
Banquo wrote:Kicking was poor execution, but imo not the wrong tactics generally. It was hideous out there.
Backrow looked decent, Kruis eventually mastered the lineout in attack and defence. Nothing much else to say - except we do some quite unintelligent things on a regular basis.
Backrow was the only decent thing about that.
I mean, the tight 5 weren't terrible, but they didn't really impact the game much. The backrow did, all 3 of the starters.
I didn't like that Jones broke them up for Lawes.
Earl looks like Ford from a distance, that was confusing.
Re: Team for Scotland
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:17 pm
by Danno
Stom wrote:Banquo wrote:Kicking was poor execution, but imo not the wrong tactics generally. It was hideous out there.
Backrow looked decent, Kruis eventually mastered the lineout in attack and defence. Nothing much else to say - except we do some quite unintelligent things on a regular basis.
Backrow was the only decent thing about that.
I mean, the tight 5 weren't terrible, but they didn't really impact the game much. The backrow did, all 3 of the starters.
I didn't like that Jones broke them up for Lawes.
Earl looks like Ford from a distance, that was confusing.
I thought so too! Didn't help that Ford had tried to/had to crash it up a couple of times before Earl came on to do something similar
Re: Team for Scotland
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:21 pm
by Which Tyler
Worst performer of the day - Sonja McLaughlin - by a country mile
Re: Team for Scotland
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:36 pm
by Mellsblue
My in-depth analysis:
Re: Team for Scotland
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:38 pm
by Stom
Jesus, these rankings...
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/ ... er-ratings
Mine would be more like...
Furbank - 5
May - 6
Joseph - 4
Farrell - 3
Daly - 3
Ford - 5
Heinz - 3
Mako - 6
George - 4
Sinckler - 5
Itoje - 7
Kruis - 6
Ludlam - 7
Underhill - 8
Curry - 8
Re: Team for Scotland
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:55 pm
by Raggs
Try rugbypass. Ford gets picked up on for just missing a long range drop goal that was tactically astute, Farrell is forgiven all the misses from the tee.
Re: Team for Scotland
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:03 pm
by Mellsblue
Raggs wrote:Try rugbypass. Ford gets picked up on for just missing a long range drop goal that was tactically astute, Farrell is forgiven all the misses from the tee.
Alex Shaw’s bias in favour of Farrell and against Ford is laughable.
Last week he gave Farrell a 4 and Ford a 5. This week Farrell an 8 and Ford a 4. Not sure what lenses he’s watching through.
Re: Team for Scotland
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:22 pm
by fivepointer
Dreadful game in dreadful conditions. Tactically we were right, but some of our execution was poor. Thought our back row went well.
Difficult to drum up much enthusiasm about it in truth. Sometimes simply winning a game is the only positive you can take.
Re: Team for Scotland
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:35 pm
by Danno
What did Farrell do, at all, other than miss a penalty? I'm including captaining the side in my rhetorical question here.