RugbyRebels

p/d wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 2:48 pm

Banquo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:23 pm oz having a bad start always sad to see...

Ours is looking somewhat ropey

Looks like we could be hounded out of this one.

poor from us, but pleased for Afghanistan

Yeah, well done Afghanistan. Thats 2 very poor efforts out of 3 in this WC. Could do with finding some good form soon.

fivepointer wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 6:17 pm Yeah, well done Afghanistan. Thats 2 very poor efforts out of 3 in this WC. Could do with finding some good form soon.

Our bowling imo is too poor to get much further (Curran and Woakes esp), and the batting has been collapsing too often. Apart from that

underdogs week...Netherlands beat SA

SA-Eng shaping up to be another 1-sided contest..

That was dreadful with bat and ball.

They look utterly shot.

fivepointer wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 5:23 pm That was dreadful with bat and ball.

They look utterly shot.

Buttler's captaincy decisions have been questionable- batting second has worked on different surfaces before, but this is different gravy, Then again, we don't have a good enough attack- Rashid's aura has gone, Curran has lost the plot and Woakes is just a very average overseas bowler. The batting is too inconsistent- suspect Root needs a rest, and he is the glue; YJB has decided its time for his habitual bad form run

Eng now lie 10th. in a table of 10 teams so the only way is up.
Failing that, it will be the status quo.

Galfon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:42 pm Eng now lie 10th. in a table of 10 teams so the only way is up.
Failing that, it will be the status quo.

Time for Borthball?

horror show so far again. YJB runs out Root and then out to a terrible shot, then Buttler and Livingstone poor. 93-5 against a very weak Sri Lanka.

These guys are shot.

Summut not right - same as other sports, it's seems non-stop these days, and same big names juggling between formats.
Still a chance with Stokes & Ali out there but not good showing.
**eta - spoke too soon.

Really poor. Woakes has gone from hero to zero in this tournie as well.

Quite a spectacular fall from grace. From being one of the pre tournament favourites to abject also rans is some slide.

fivepointer wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 12:15 pm Quite a spectacular fall from grace. From being one of the pre tournament favourites to abject also rans is some slide.

Means a cull I'd imagine, really really bad. I don't they've ever known what their best bowling side is for these conditions- can't explain away the abject batting tbh when other sides have been smashing it all over the shop.

Banquo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 12:21 pm

fivepointer wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 12:15 pm Quite a spectacular fall from grace. From being one of the pre tournament favourites to abject also rans is some slide.

Means a cull I'd imagine, really really bad. I don't they've ever known what their best bowling side is for these conditions- can't explain away the abject batting tbh when other sides have been smashing it all over the shop.

The speed of decline is quite something. These arent bad players but to have collectively completely lost form and confidence is hard to understand.

fivepointer wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 12:46 pm

Banquo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 12:21 pm

fivepointer wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 12:15 pm Quite a spectacular fall from grace. From being one of the pre tournament favourites to abject also rans is some slide.

Means a cull I'd imagine, really really bad. I don't they've ever known what their best bowling side is for these conditions- can't explain away the abject batting tbh when other sides have been smashing it all over the shop.

The speed of decline is quite something. These arent bad players but to have collectively completely lost form and confidence is hard to understand.

plus everyone is 30 and over, Jonny Bairstow (34), Dawid Malan (36), Joe Root (32), Ben Stokes (32), Jos Buttler (33), Liam Livingstone (30), Moeen Ali (36), Chris Woakes (34), David Willey (33), Adil Rashid (35), Mark Wood (33)

Home and hosed, Sri L just about.
( a sending home for a good hosing sounds about right for our bedraggled bunch..the 2 run outs earlier were slopville central )

Banquo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:58 am Really poor. Woakes has gone from hero to zero in this tournie as well.

It's almost as if there is a documented and noted trend of him being absolutely amazing in English conditions while not being half the player anywhere else and worst of all in the subcontinent. I don't know how this is a surprise to the selectors, considering it's been shown over and over and over again.

Puja

Puja wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:04 pm

Banquo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:58 am Really poor. Woakes has gone from hero to zero in this tournie as well.

It's almost as if there is a documented and noted trend of him being absolutely amazing in English conditions while not being half the player anywhere else and worst of all in the subcontinent. I don't know how this is a surprise to the selectors, considering it's been shown over and over and over again.

Puja

Yeah, I noted that earlier. His (admittedly test) stats in England and abroad must represent the biggest delta of any international player.

Mellsblue wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:00 pm

Galfon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:42 pm Eng now lie 10th. in a table of 10 teams so the only way is up.
Failing that, it will be the status quo.

Time for Borthball?

It seems the answer was a resounding ‘yes’…

putting India in seems like the definition of madness. Our MO before this tournie has been to chase.....but our bowlers are old, not very good and its effin hot.

woakes flipping me the finger here

Banquo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 8:46 am putting India in seems like the definition of madness. Our MO before this tournie has been to chase.....but our bowlers are old, not very good and its effin hot.

as i said, great tactic

Bowlers did their bit. Currently the batsmen are doing their best to fritter away the advantage.