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Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 11:39 am
by Stom
Sandydragon wrote:
Stom wrote:OMG, that last one, Michael Tate...that is soooo a parody account, even if unintentional. Amazing.

Seriously, go have a read, fantastic.
Another MP enobled for being an arse licker
No, pretty sure it's a parody account, lol. Just subtle enough to get through. But the clips and images chosen give it away. It's excellent.

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 11:42 am
by Puja
Stom wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:
Stom wrote:OMG, that last one, Michael Tate...that is soooo a parody account, even if unintentional. Amazing.

Seriously, go have a read, fantastic.
Another MP enobled for being an arse licker
No, pretty sure it's a parody account, lol. Just subtle enough to get through. But the clips and images chosen give it away. It's excellent.
Plus the name - Michael Take -> Mickey Take. And the hashtag of GoNads.

Admittedly, I did require someone pointing both those things out to me, as I didn't realise it was intentional parody when first I saw it. Poe's Law in full effect with the ridiculousness of this government.

Puja

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 2:31 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
Sandydragon wrote:
Puja wrote:Nadine Dorries getting absolutely rinsed by all and sundry for appearing at a Rugby League World Cup promo event and talking about how she always loved rugby league and she remembers fondly the drop goal that won it in 2003.

Puja
This kind of shit happens and she isnt going to know every detail of every sport she might have to get involved with. But, unless you are going to prepare well then don't try and pretend that you know what you're talking about. Im sure the RL community would rather she rocked up interested but with no knowledge than pretend she has been secretly a supporter since the 2003 RWC!
It's what happens when you lack both intelligence and integrity.

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 3:22 pm
by Sandydragon
Puja wrote:
Stom wrote:
Sandydragon wrote: Another MP enobled for being an arse licker
No, pretty sure it's a parody account, lol. Just subtle enough to get through. But the clips and images chosen give it away. It's excellent.
Plus the name - Michael Take -> Mickey Take. And the hashtag of GoNads.

Admittedly, I did require someone pointing both those things out to me, as I didn't realise it was intentional parody when first I saw it. Poe's Law in full effect with the ridiculousness of this government.

Puja
Fair play, it could easily have been another MP Ive never heard of, but as parody its far too close to reality.

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 3:44 pm
by Which Tyler
Puja wrote:Plus the latest Tory MP involved in sexual assault, after getting drunk and groping strangers, is called Mr Pincher. Just wanted to share that one.
Worth noting, his first comment on it, before details got out, was that he "got drunk and embarrassed myself"; which... doesn't quite do justice to "sexually assaulted 2 people"

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:07 am
by Stom
It's been quiet in Westminster for about a week, so we were due another scandal. And we get one with Pincher.

If Labour are instigating the timing of these leaks and these scandals, they're playing an absolute blinder. Whoever is behind the timing of these revelations is playing the game perfectly to utterly dismantle the governments electability.

Nothing major, just scandal after scandal, each calling back to previous government decisions.

They just need to keep it up for another year... With any other government, you'd think they'd gone too early and there wouldn't be enough scandals. But with this one...there are definitely 52 more scandals left in this group of charlatans.

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:10 am
by Sandydragon
Stom wrote:It's been quiet in Westminster for about a week, so we were due another scandal. And we get one with Pincher.

If Labour are instigating the timing of these leaks and these scandals, they're playing an absolute blinder. Whoever is behind the timing of these revelations is playing the game perfectly to utterly dismantle the governments electability.

Nothing major, just scandal after scandal, each calling back to previous government decisions.

They just need to keep it up for another year... With any other government, you'd think they'd gone too early and there wouldn't be enough scandals. But with this one...there are definitely 52 more scandals left in this group of charlatans.
It almost doesn't matter (given that the remaining Conservative support just don't care) but in another way its important to keep floating voters annoyed enough that they decide not to vote Conservative.

But 2 years is a lifetime in politics and there is a long way to go and plenty of time for the public to lose interest (another risk as these scandals all blend into 1).

Unless Tory MPs change the rules and have another leadership vote to oust Johnson, or enough of them put country before party and support Labour in a vote of no confidence (very unlikely). That might change if the parliamentary standards committee is particularly damning. I understand that will be live on TV which will keep some pressure on.

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:10 pm
by Sandydragon
Javid has resigned!!! Claims that British people want integrity in government. Could this be the beginning of the end?


Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:19 pm
by Sandydragon
And Sunak has gone too.

Surely he can’t bluster this one out?

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:31 pm
by Which Tyler
Sandydragon wrote:And Sunak has gone too.

Surely he can’t bluster this one out?
He'll damn well try though!

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:38 pm
by Sandydragon
Dorries seen at number 10. Is she going to get health or the chancellor role?

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:43 pm
by Which Tyler
Sandydragon wrote:Dorries seen at number 10. Is she going to get health or the chancellor role?
Someone pass the brain-bleach

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:23 pm
by Stom
Have they shot their load too soon? No way to call a vote of no confidence in the government unless BJ is somehow teflon coated! If he fails to resign or the Tory party somehow fail to get rid of him, Labour could have a good chance to force a vote of no confidence, with the real possibility many Tories will vote with them.

Then they somehow need to a win a general...

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:25 pm
by Sandydragon
Stom wrote:Have they shot their load too soon? No way to call a vote of no confidence in the government unless BJ is somehow teflon coated! If he fails to resign or the Tory party somehow fail to get rid of him, Labour could have a good chance to force a vote of no confidence, with the real possibility many Tories will vote with them.

Then they somehow need to a win a general...
Hard to tell at the moment. Other big figures in the cabinet have announced the at they aren’t going to reign but tomorrow will be interesting. Boris isn’t obliged to do anything but if he can’t form a government then he can’t govern. But I suspect that enough cronies will agree to take posts to keep him in power for a bit longer.

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:53 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
Sandydragon wrote:
Stom wrote:Have they shot their load too soon? No way to call a vote of no confidence in the government unless BJ is somehow teflon coated! If he fails to resign or the Tory party somehow fail to get rid of him, Labour could have a good chance to force a vote of no confidence, with the real possibility many Tories will vote with them.
Then they somehow need to a win a general...
Hard to tell at the moment. Other big figures in the cabinet have announced the at they aren’t going to reign but tomorrow will be interesting. Boris isn’t obliged to do anything but if he can’t form a government then he can’t govern. But I suspect that enough cronies will agree to take posts to keep him in power for a bit longer.
I have no idea why this was the unacceptable thing that forced Javid and Sunak's hands.

There's zero chance of the Tories voting for a general election.

Boris will stay unless a lot more resign or privately (as a group) threaten to. I imagine he can find droves of loyal incompetents to fill up ministerial positions if need be.

Truss is positioning herself as Mark Antony to Javid and Sunak's Brutus and Cassius. Except that Boris is still alive....

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:04 pm
by Sandydragon
Son of Mathonwy wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:
Stom wrote:Have they shot their load too soon? No way to call a vote of no confidence in the government unless BJ is somehow teflon coated! If he fails to resign or the Tory party somehow fail to get rid of him, Labour could have a good chance to force a vote of no confidence, with the real possibility many Tories will vote with them.
Then they somehow need to a win a general...
Hard to tell at the moment. Other big figures in the cabinet have announced the at they aren’t going to reign but tomorrow will be interesting. Boris isn’t obliged to do anything but if he can’t form a government then he can’t govern. But I suspect that enough cronies will agree to take posts to keep him in power for a bit longer.
I have no idea why this was the unacceptable thing that forced Javid and Sunak's hands.

There's zero chance of the Tories voting for a general election.

Boris will stay unless a lot more resign or privately (as a group) threaten to. I imagine he can find droves of loyal incompetents to fill up ministerial positions if need be.

Truss is positioning herself as Mark Antony to Javid and Sunak's Brutus and Cassius. Except that Boris is still alive....
Who gets to play Cleopatra?

And yes this seems like a strange thing to finally decide to resign over.

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:21 pm
by Banquo
Son of Mathonwy wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:
Stom wrote:Have they shot their load too soon? No way to call a vote of no confidence in the government unless BJ is somehow teflon coated! If he fails to resign or the Tory party somehow fail to get rid of him, Labour could have a good chance to force a vote of no confidence, with the real possibility many Tories will vote with them.
Then they somehow need to a win a general...
Hard to tell at the moment. Other big figures in the cabinet have announced the at they aren’t going to reign but tomorrow will be interesting. Boris isn’t obliged to do anything but if he can’t form a government then he can’t govern. But I suspect that enough cronies will agree to take posts to keep him in power for a bit longer.
I have no idea why this was the unacceptable thing that forced Javid and Sunak's hands.

There's zero chance of the Tories voting for a general election.

Boris will stay unless a lot more resign or privately (as a group) threaten to. I imagine he can find droves of loyal incompetents to fill up ministerial positions if need be.

Truss is positioning herself as Mark Antony to Javid and Sunak's Brutus and Cassius. Except that Boris is still alive....
Sunaks letter is interesting reading

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:53 pm
by Sandydragon
Allegedly Boris wanted Truss to be chancellor but Zahawi threatened to quit if he didn’t get it. Boris is literally hanging on by the finger tips.

But I have a feeling he will survive. Unless some more big names step down tomorrow then he can continue and ride out the next year (assuming the 1922 doesn’t change the rules and there are no motions of no confidence that Tory MPs support).

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:32 pm
by Puja
Yaay. My spectacularly milquetoast MP is now the Minister for Education. Her qualifications are the same as the reason I don't like her - she has never once voted or spoken against anything the government has ever done, despite having been an MP under three very different Tory leaderships.

Puja

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:18 am
by Puja
Oh, excellent! :lol:
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For context, Lucy Allan is a Conservative MP.

Puja

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:36 pm
by Sandydragon
Puja wrote:Yaay. My spectacularly milquetoast MP is now the Minister for Education. Her qualifications are the same as the reason I don't like her - she has never once voted or spoken against anything the government has ever done, despite having been an MP under three very different Tory leaderships.

Puja
This is the way to success. Don’t rock the boat and mod at the right times. Never take any risks. Works in many walks of life.

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:38 pm
by Sandydragon
She is the 7th education secretary in 8 years. That’s utterly appalling. Arguably education should be one of the top offices.

She also wanted to be an MP at the age of 6. I felt no need to read further as that alone should disqualify her from any public office.

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:00 pm
by Which Tyler
27 resignations in 21 hours

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:41 pm
by Stom
Looks like they shot their load too quick...

A Tory party led by Javid or Dishy Rishi is far more likely to win the next election...

Re: Snap General Election called

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:48 pm
by Banquo
Tostado Borissimo. Gove has spoken.