Re: The Glasgow Carpet Burns and Cary Grant Appreciation Thread
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:30 pm
Lost motivation it seems.Donny osmond wrote:Mat Smith has retired?
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Lost motivation it seems.Donny osmond wrote:Mat Smith has retired?
I'd have lost motivation as well. A 100% player who never took a step back and did very well when he got a chance. Was playing like a dream against Scarlets season before last, some huge tackles then binned when Allan got a red card and needed to bring on a prop after 20mins. Never really had a look in since, binned and shunned by Rennie. One of several, if you weren't "in" you were definitely out and not getting back in.switchskier wrote:Lost motivation it seems.Donny osmond wrote:Mat Smith has retired?
Interesting to see it put like that. I’d never seen enough of him to know whether he simply didn’t deserve the game time or had the talent but wasn’t able to get his foot in the door.septic 9 wrote:I'd have lost motivation as well. A 100% player who never took a step back and did very well when he got a chance. Was playing like a dream against Scarlets season before last, some huge tackles then binned when Allan got a red card and needed to bring on a prop after 20mins. Never really had a look in since, binned and shunned by Rennie. One of several, if you weren't "in" you were definitely out and not getting back in.switchskier wrote:Lost motivation it seems.Donny osmond wrote:Mat Smith has retired?
Smith is a hugely wasted talent, one everyone was really excited about from the U20s. In the current climate, having been binned by Glasgow, Edinburgh with 1001 international back rows and 2 best U20 talents since Smith/Fagerson, not many deals elsewhere for Scottish players , pretty much nowhere to go. Very sad
got a link for that?General Zod wrote:Times did a good article on Matt Smith - behind a paywall tho. Lambasted the SRU for not providing enough opportunities for native talent, using quotes from O’Halloran and Gordon Reid, and pretty much saying Rennie felt similar.
It’s not just the lack of a third team, but also not having A teams which hurts the emerging/ never-to-emerge players.
Anyway, good luck to Smith in whatever he ends up doing. Very good player.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/scot ... -t9k93dgm0septic 9 wrote:got a link for that?General Zod wrote:Times did a good article on Matt Smith - behind a paywall tho. Lambasted the SRU for not providing enough opportunities for native talent, using quotes from O’Halloran and Gordon Reid, and pretty much saying Rennie felt similar.
It’s not just the lack of a third team, but also not having A teams which hurts the emerging/ never-to-emerge players.
Anyway, good luck to Smith in whatever he ends up doing. Very good player.
Yep, everyone knows the system's not perfect but there are far fewer feasible solutions. I had hoped that the financial position would soon improve enough to bring a third team back onto consideration but I fear Covid has done for that for now.septic 9 wrote:got a link for that?General Zod wrote:Times did a good article on Matt Smith - behind a paywall tho. Lambasted the SRU for not providing enough opportunities for native talent, using quotes from O’Halloran and Gordon Reid, and pretty much saying Rennie felt similar.
It’s not just the lack of a third team, but also not having A teams which hurts the emerging/ never-to-emerge players.
Anyway, good luck to Smith in whatever he ends up doing. Very good player.
Bit rich from Rennie, who froze Smith out, recruited Gibbens and Gordon, and for long enough froze Fusaro out. I've no real problem with that recruitment TBH, but Rennie is just criticising himself.
3rd pro team and even an A team come at a cost - not just players but travel and other support. TBH its too easy to say we should have either, and either would be just great, but where does the cash come from or what gets cut? Anyone calling for either needs to put up some clear solutions and not pie in the sky SRU bad nonsense
thanks.General Zod wrote:https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/scot ... -t9k93dgm0septic 9 wrote:got a link for that?General Zod wrote:Times did a good article on Matt Smith - behind a paywall tho. Lambasted the SRU for not providing enough opportunities for native talent, using quotes from O’Halloran and Gordon Reid, and pretty much saying Rennie felt similar.
It’s not just the lack of a third team, but also not having A teams which hurts the emerging/ never-to-emerge players.
Anyway, good luck to Smith in whatever he ends up doing. Very good player.
Got a great step on him and has been likened to Graham. I'm guessing that he'll start out on the wing with Seymour as the incumbent fullback but think his long term future could be at 15. Hope he gets done chances.septic 9 wrote:Rufus McLean signed. U20s star. Could be very good indeed
I don't like to make comparisons but if I had to I'd say more Hogg than Graham. He is a talent, will need to fill out a wee bit but a few months with the full squad will do thatswitchskier wrote:Got a great step on him and has been likened to Graham. I'm guessing that he'll start out on the wing with Seymour as the incumbent fullback but think his long term future could be at 15. Hope he gets done chances.septic 9 wrote:Rufus McLean signed. U20s star. Could be very good indeed
all 3 are out of contract so playing them would mean (training apart) paying contract extensions. Ain't going to happen as the 2 games Glasgow have are TBH meaningless for them.Cameo wrote: I also don't know if the leaving players will be around for a farewell. Would seem a pity for Gibbins, Jackson and DTH to leave without a final match but also seems a little pointless to play them.
thank goodness, some were beginning to wonder if he was there at all. SRU media strategy has been poor. Then again Wilson isn't a Cockerill type rent-a-quote.Cameo wrote:Wilson seems to be in the media a bit more now and the new captain is to be named soon. Ryan Wilson would seem the obvious candidate to carry on but they may want to go younger.
Fair points. I wasn't sure on their contract positions. Decision made then.septic 9 wrote:all 3 are out of contract so playing them would mean (training apart) paying contract extensions. Ain't going to happen as the 2 games Glasgow have are TBH meaningless for them.Cameo wrote: I also don't know if the leaving players will be around for a farewell. Would seem a pity for Gibbins, Jackson and DTH to leave without a final match but also seems a little pointless to play them.
Don't think Jacko is going far so will be a guest and present a match ball, probably when we can get fans back in, so next season. DTH will definitely be brought back to present the match ball. Don't know about Gibbens. Decent enough player, but just the 2 and a bit seasons, some missed with injury and hardly a club legend
It's an odd one. Gray snr was signed perhaps in part to appease and quieten the frustration of Gray jnr (and others) leaving a rapidly diminishing squad.septic 9 wrote:thank goodness, some were beginning to wonder if he was there at all. SRU media strategy has been poor. Then again Wilson isn't a Cockerill type rent-a-quote.Cameo wrote:Wilson seems to be in the media a bit more now and the new captain is to be named soon. Ryan Wilson would seem the obvious candidate to carry on but they may want to go younger.
he has said a couple of things that made me wonder. Mentioning G Horne as a possible captain. Don't see it myself, but there we go.
Richie Gray calling lineouts. IIRC he didn't when he was here, or at Sale, or at Castres or that much at Toulouse (when he played) and they didn't have an obvious lineout caller much of the time.
I think Cummings has been fitting onto that role well. I think McDonald when he was starting early last season did it well. But mainly I question whether Gray will be a starting lock - I'd have Cummings and Nakawara ahead of him, and if big McDonald plays like he did last season Richie will have his work cut out to get past him as well. And that's even if he stays fit
What below article?Cameo wrote:Glasgow seem to be at least thinking of a plan to build two permanent stands and increasing the capacity at Scotstoun to 14,500. The below article takes a negative stance and I'm in no position to judge re traffic etc. but 14,500 seems about perfect. Big enough to be a stretch but small enough to create a decent amount atmosphere even if not full and for sell-outs to be achievable for Edinburgh games, knockouts and, over time, other big games
Cheers. I kinda feel sorry for the people that live there, but it’s only about 14 days a year and it has been a sports/ event ground for decades. If they do redevelop it, it would be good to see some sort of permanent structure behind the posts.
A bit more detail on Matt Smith. Glad that he's away from it given what's in the article, but does suggest that there are some more fairly basic things that can be addressed to stop talent like his from being lost to the game. I know that the SRU have made efforts in this regard in recent years but can always do more.Mikey Brown wrote:Interesting to see it put like that. I’d never seen enough of him to know whether he simply didn’t deserve the game time or had the talent but wasn’t able to get his foot in the door.septic 9 wrote:I'd have lost motivation as well. A 100% player who never took a step back and did very well when he got a chance. Was playing like a dream against Scarlets season before last, some huge tackles then binned when Allan got a red card and needed to bring on a prop after 20mins. Never really had a look in since, binned and shunned by Rennie. One of several, if you weren't "in" you were definitely out and not getting back in.switchskier wrote:
Lost motivation it seems.
Smith is a hugely wasted talent, one everyone was really excited about from the U20s. In the current climate, having been binned by Glasgow, Edinburgh with 1001 international back rows and 2 best U20 talents since Smith/Fagerson, not many deals elsewhere for Scottish players , pretty much nowhere to go. Very sad