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Re: The 2016 Olympic Games

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:11 pm
by Mellsblue
WaspInWales wrote:I get what Euge meant now. Thought he was on about the interview but he clearly meant running out of the ring.

Yeah, perhaps a bit daft in hindsight but still a rather unfortunate way to lose. He did very well all through the Olympics.
No, no. EW happens to be well paid and therefore can only view things from an avaricious and explotative angle.

Re: RE: Re: The 2016 Olympic Games

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:22 pm
by Donny osmond
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
kk67 wrote:
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:Muhammed guaranteed at least silver.
Poor bugger. Heart breaking for him but he's clearly a guy who can show emotion, understand it, manage it.
The tears were rolling down my face but I was thinking 'this guy is going to be an amazing coach'.
He should have run away. He was either stupid or arrogant. I feel for him because he'll almost certainly never get a chance like that again.
Bit harsh Eug. Sure he would've won the gold but there's merit in trying to win it by competing rather than avoiding.

Re: RE: Re: The 2016 Olympic Games

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 8:00 pm
by Eugene Wrayburn
Donny osmond wrote:
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
kk67 wrote:
Poor bugger. Heart breaking for him but he's clearly a guy who can show emotion, understand it, manage it.
The tears were rolling down my face but I was thinking 'this guy is going to be an amazing coach'.
He should have run away. He was either stupid or arrogant. I feel for him because he'll almost certainly never get a chance like that again.
Bit harsh Eug. Sure he would've won the gold but there's merit in trying to win it by competing rather than avoiding.
With one second on the clock there really isn't. the aim of the contest is to hit and to avoid getting hit. All he had to do was avoid getting hit for 1 second, even if it meant a warning. Even Jade Jones who was about 6 points up just turned and celebrated at 2 seconds left.

Re: The 2016 Olympic Games

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 8:47 pm
by Which Tyler
Have to agree with Eug here; with 1 second to go, and leading; just keep out of reach.


Both today's Taekwondoers successfully through to their SFs - Taekwondo does have bronze play-offs though, so no guarantees yet.

Jamie Cooke has made a little ground up with the steal-a-horse element of the Pentathalon, but he could really do with one of the leaders having a frank bad round. Ireland's Arthur Lanigan-O'Keefe (you'd never know he was Irish) did even better, and leapfrogged Cooke - didn't know leapfrog was an olympic sport though.
Chung goes well, with just a 7 point penalty. And the Russian has a poor round, losing up to 20 points on the chasing pack; still leading by 10 points at the 3/4 mark though (yes, three-quarters; the Pentathalon has 4 rounds... go figure).


Question - Taekwondo is principally the art of kicking people in the head - how come Glasgow isn't leading the world in this?

Re: The 2016 Olympic Games

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 9:14 pm
by Mellsblue
Which Tyler wrote: Question - Taekwondo is principally the art of kicking people in the head - how come Glasgow isn't leading the world in this?
The IOC require the participants to be sober.

Re: The 2016 Olympic Games

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 9:21 pm
by Galfon
Which Tyler wrote: yes, three-quarters; the Pentathalon has 4 rounds... go figure...
still with 5 elements though:
swordy, swimmy, horse-jumpy with
runny/shooty done in 1 excercise.
Can't see this event sneaking in to many school games curricula.

Re: The 2016 Olympic Games

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 9:25 pm
by Which Tyler
Galfon wrote:
Which Tyler wrote: yes, three-quarters; the Pentathalon has 4 rounds... go figure...
still with 5 elements though:
swordy, swimmy, horse-jumpy with
runny/shooty done in 1 excercise.
Can't see this event sneaking in to many school games curricula.
I know; I know - but it still counts one event; could easily squeeze another one in there.
They should make the Modern Pentathalon more... Modern.
It's supposed to simiulate an officer escaping from wartime captivity (which I still think is really cool) - swimming can stay (open water), fencing should be taken out and replaced with some form of hand-to-hand combat (MMA?); stealing a horse can stay (should be cross-country, not show jumping - better yet, hotwire a motorbike and go motocross); and running away whilst taking pot-shots can stay; but introduce drone dogfighting!

Re: The 2016 Olympic Games

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 9:43 pm
by Eugene Wrayburn
Which Tyler wrote:
Galfon wrote:
Which Tyler wrote: yes, three-quarters; the Pentathalon has 4 rounds... go figure...
still with 5 elements though:
swordy, swimmy, horse-jumpy with
runny/shooty done in 1 excercise.
Can't see this event sneaking in to many school games curricula.
I know; I know - but it still counts one event; could easily squeeze another one in there.
They should make the Modern Pentathalon more... Modern.
It's supposed to simiulate an officer escaping from wartime captivity (which I still think is really cool) - swimming can stay (open water), fencing should be taken out and replaced with some form of hand-to-hand combat (MMA?); stealing a horse can stay (should be cross-country, not show jumping - better yet, hotwire a motorbike and go motocross); and running away whilst taking pot-shots can stay; but introduce drone dogfighting!
Ultra-modern Pentathlon...


That was comfortably the dullest Taekwondo fight I've ever seen.

Re: The 2016 Olympic Games

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 12:05 am
by kk67
I generally quite like Chappers,.....but his fake laughing has driven me up the wall tonight.


I wonder if on MOTD2 Chappers will tomorrow discuss how strange it is that England holds the most wealthy football league in the world but couldn't be arsed to even offer a team.

Re: RE: Re: The 2016 Olympic Games

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 1:57 am
by OptimisticJock
Donny osmond wrote:
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
kk67 wrote:
Poor bugger. Heart breaking for him but he's clearly a guy who can show emotion, understand it, manage it.
The tears were rolling down my face but I was thinking 'this guy is going to be an amazing coach'.
He should have run away. He was either stupid or arrogant. I feel for him because he'll almost certainly never get a chance like that again.
Bit harsh Eug. Sure he would've won the gold but there's merit in trying to win it by competing rather than avoiding.
I disagree. Nothing wrong with defending your lead, putting the baw as far down field as possible.

Re: The 2016 Olympic Games

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 1:59 am
by OptimisticJock
Anyway. Farah is something else.

Re: The 2016 Olympic Games

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:43 am
by Which Tyler
I have to say, after all the pessimism and scepticism beforehand, and despite the poor crowds; these Olympics have really grabbed me. Britain's most successfully games since 1908 (hardly a fair comparison), GB becoming the first nation ever to increase their medal haul immediately after hosting, most diverse medal table in history (both for GB and as a whole), successful introduction of rugby, and barely a hint of the U! S! A! obnoxious chanting.

Doesn't seem to have been so successful / popular overseas though, so that British success obviously goes a long way.

Re: The 2016 Olympic Games

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:48 am
by rowan
The 7s, Usain Bolt and the football final is about all that interested me. Glad to see Brazil win gold in the latter. Doesn't exactly make up for their epic failure at the 2014 World Cup, and I doubt we'll ever see the 'Beautiful Game' again, now that most of the nation's star players are based in Europe, but at least it provided a little cheer for supporters of the beleaguered Brazilian national team (albeit at U23 level)...

Re: The 2016 Olympic Games

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:58 am
by Galfon
Agreed.The success across many events shows good preparation,coaching and support for the athletes, especially the 'elite' group.
Speaking of which, will Daley now lose his funding as not being podium material for 2020 or potential for 2024 ? ( 'Olympic Podium Programme'...it really does exist ).

Re: The 2016 Olympic Games

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:05 am
by canta_brian
Far too much like hard work for me to find out so I will stick with wild speculation. How many medals did gb win in events where a Russian would have been strong competition? Or more to the point, how many more might they have won in London had the cheating ruskies nit been there. China's medal table has notable exceptions in athletics and swimming this games. Anyone surprised?

Re: RE: Re: The 2016 Olympic Games

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 10:01 am
by Donny osmond
canta_brian wrote:Far too much like hard work for me to find out so I will stick with wild speculation. How many medals did gb win in events where a Russian would have been strong competition? Or more to the point, how many more might they have won in London had the cheating ruskies nit been there. China's medal table has notable exceptions in athletics and swimming this games. Anyone surprised?
Not remotely surprised. There was a guy on the radio talking about the amount of testing that gets done and how these are the cleanest games ever from the point of view that everyone knows that they're likely to get caught if they cheat. The interviewer posed a question along the lines of is that why some "traditional powers" like russia and china aren't doing as well this year. The guy stayed quiet but you could hear him smirking.

Re: The 2016 Olympic Games

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 10:21 am
by skidger
Which Tyler wrote:I have to say, after all the pessimism and scepticism beforehand, and despite the poor crowds; these Olympics have really grabbed me. Britain's most successfully games since 1908 (hardly a fair comparison), GB becoming the first nation ever to increase their medal haul immediately after hosting, most diverse medal table in history (both for GB and as a whole), successful introduction of rugby, and barely a hint of the U! S! A! obnoxious chanting.

Doesn't seem to have been so successful / popular overseas though, so that British success obviously goes a long way.
That has been worse than i expected. Hilights included the 7s and Hockey finals with empty seats. Although this was topped for me when Bolt was given his 200m gold in front of a stadium that was a third full. This was also the day that there were relay heats which is always quite exciting,well for me anyway. If the British did not travel so well to follow sports the Hockey and Velodrome would have been very quiet.

Re: The 2016 Olympic Games

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 10:48 am
by Eugene Wrayburn
The sport (and being biased the British performance in it) has saved this Olympics for me. The crowd has been a major let down. Not just in terms of numbers but booing those competing against your home favourites is not in the Olympic spirit. However I did like booing drug cheats. There should be more of that at every games.

I'm now really worried about Paralympics. Only 15% of tickets are sold. Teams aren't going to be able to travel to get there because of ticket sales and they've cannibalised funding for the Paralympics to get the Olympics going.

Re: The 2016 Olympic Games

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 6:55 pm
by belgarion
GB to finish 2nd in medal table as China only have 1 athlete left able to win gold which, even if they do win only
draws them level with GB who have more Silvers

Re: RE: Re: The 2016 Olympic Games

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:19 pm
by canta_brian
belgarion wrote:GB to finish 2nd in medal table as China only have 1 athlete left able to win gold which, even if they do win only
draws them level with GB who have more Silvers
Good effort from the gb athletes. Obvs I support the kiwis first and foremost but I have enjoyed watching a sport other than bloody football here in the uk.

Re: The 2016 Olympic Games

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:13 pm
by kk67
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:The sport (and being biased the British performance in it) has saved this Olympics for me. The crowd has been a major let down. Not just in terms of numbers but booing those competing against your home favourites is not in the Olympic spirit. However I did like booing drug cheats. There should be more of that at every games.

I'm now really worried about Paralympics. Only 15% of tickets are sold. Teams aren't going to be able to travel to get there because of ticket sales and they've cannibalised funding for the Paralympics to get the Olympics going.
It has been so vicious......and so funny.

Re: The 2016 Olympic Games

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:14 pm
by canta_brian
Oh, and invertwat has been, well, invertwat.

Re: The 2016 Olympic Games

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:25 pm
by kk67
Which Tyler wrote:
Galfon wrote:
Which Tyler wrote: yes, three-quarters; the Pentathalon has 4 rounds... go figure...
still with 5 elements though:
swordy, swimmy, horse-jumpy with
runny/shooty done in 1 excercise.
Can't see this event sneaking in to many school games curricula.
I know; I know - but it still counts one event; could easily squeeze another one in there.
They should make the Modern Pentathalon more... Modern.
It's supposed to simiulate an officer escaping from wartime captivity (which I still think is really cool) - swimming can stay (open water), fencing should be taken out and replaced with some form of hand-to-hand combat (MMA?); stealing a horse can stay (should be cross-country, not show jumping - better yet, hotwire a motorbike and go motocross); and running away whilst taking pot-shots can stay; but introduce drone dogfighting!
They should expand the horsey element to include:
leading the horse into an utterly futile military manoeuvre.
shooting the horse after you've made it lame.
butchering the horse with a sabre.
swimming across a river with a pack stuffed with the butchered meat....etc.

We send Bear Grylls and Ray Mears to Tokyo,....that's gotta be a couple of medals.

Re: RE: Re: The 2016 Olympic Games

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:27 pm
by canta_brian
kk67 wrote:
Which Tyler wrote:
Galfon wrote: still with 5 elements though:
swordy, swimmy, horse-jumpy with
runny/shooty done in 1 excercise.
Can't see this event sneaking in to many school games curricula.
I know; I know - but it still counts one event; could easily squeeze another one in there.
They should make the Modern Pentathalon more... Modern.
It's supposed to simiulate an officer escaping from wartime captivity (which I still think is really cool) - swimming can stay (open water), fencing should be taken out and replaced with some form of hand-to-hand combat (MMA?); stealing a horse can stay (should be cross-country, not show jumping - better yet, hotwire a motorbike and go motocross); and running away whilst taking pot-shots can stay; but introduce drone dogfighting!
They should expand the horsey element to include:
leading the horse into an utterly futile military manoeuvre.
shooting the horse after you've made it lame.
butchering the horse with a sabre.
swimming across a river with a pack stuffed with the butchered meat....etc.
Marketing the horse meat as lasagne and selling it to a high street retailer...

Re: The 2016 Olympic Games

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 12:15 am
by kk67
WaspInWales wrote:I get what Euge meant now. Thought he was on about the interview but he clearly meant running out of the ring.

Yeah, perhaps a bit daft in hindsight but still a rather unfortunate way to lose. He did very well all through the Olympics.
Nice guy.
Massively impressed by all the physical contact GB sports.