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Re: Alex Shaw's premiership XV
Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 8:58 am
by Timbo
Ashton isn’t great under a high ball, but was pretty amazing at Sarries. Don’t think it’s a pre-requisite, more that you chase hard and consistently for 80 minutes.
Over the whole season Lewington has been decent- 9 try’s in the league and at least a couple I can remember in Europe. He had a slump mid season, but started well and looks sharp currently.
Re: Alex Shaw's premiership XV
Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 9:04 am
by Mellsblue
Yep. Started like a train and then hit some troubles. When your starting back 3 is off the quality Sarries possess, he was bound to struggle for game time outside of international windows. Another pre-season and a run of games during the RWC might lead to more game time. That said, it’s difficult to see who of Williams, Maitland and Goode he can usurp.
Re: Alex Shaw's premiership XV
Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 9:06 am
by Raggs
Also by signing him it means none of their
opposition can have him.
Re: Alex Shaw's premiership XV
Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 9:18 am
by Mellsblue
Not sure about that. It’s not like they have huge depth - Lozowski was forced on to the wing for a few weeks - and they lose Williams and Maitland during the international windows.
Re: Alex Shaw's premiership XV
Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 9:32 am
by Puja
Timbo wrote:Ashton isn’t great under a high ball, but was pretty amazing at Sarries. Don’t think it’s a pre-requisite, more that you chase hard and consistently for 80 minutes.
Over the whole season Lewington has been decent- 9 try’s in the league and at least a couple I can remember in Europe. He had a slump mid season, but started well and looks sharp currently.
Ashton's actually pretty good under a high ball. He wasn't when he moved to Sarries and when he played his first flurry of England games, but he worked hard on it and I'd even call it a strength now.
I think Lewington may do better next year - I think a lot of Sarries signings take a season to acclimatise - but I was expecting more from him. He did get 9 tries, but I think that includes two hat tricks at either end of the season, which are impressive themselves, but do leave a big barren spell in the middle as you said.
Puja
Re: Alex Shaw's premiership XV
Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 10:22 am
by Timbo
Puja wrote:Timbo wrote:Ashton isn’t great under a high ball, but was pretty amazing at Sarries. Don’t think it’s a pre-requisite, more that you chase hard and consistently for 80 minutes.
Over the whole season Lewington has been decent- 9 try’s in the league and at least a couple I can remember in Europe. He had a slump mid season, but started well and looks sharp currently.
Ashton's actually pretty good under a high ball. He wasn't when he moved to Sarries and when he played his first flurry of England games, but he worked hard on it and I'd even call it a strength now.
I think Lewington may do better next year - I think a lot of Sarries signings take a season to acclimatise - but I was expecting more from him. He did get 9 tries, but I think that includes two hat tricks at either end of the season, which are impressive themselves, but do leave a big barren spell in the middle as you said.
Puja
I think Ashton is a brilliant kick chaser, and very rarely makes any sloppy technical mistakes- like dropping one cold under no pressure- but cant recall him actually getting in the air above people too often.
Re: Alex Shaw's premiership XV
Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 10:25 am
by Timbo
Mellsblue wrote:Not sure about that. It’s not like they have huge depth - Lozowski was forced on to the wing for a few weeks - and they lose Williams and Maitland during the international windows.
There must have also been some doubt as to exactly how effective Strettle would be this season. Incredible athlete to be playing as he is at 35. Not many players in the back 3 at his age performing in European semi-finals nowadays.
Re: Alex Shaw's premiership XV
Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 2:58 pm
by Digby
Mellsblue wrote: That said, it’s difficult to see who of Williams, Maitland and Goode he can usurp.
Is this one of those moments where we all nod sagely and then all say it's Maitland he'll usurp?
Re: Alex Shaw's premiership XV
Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 3:31 pm
by Mellsblue
Digby wrote:Mellsblue wrote: That said, it’s difficult to see who of Williams, Maitland and Goode he can usurp.
Is this one of those moments where we all nod sagely and then all say it's Maitland he'll usurp?
If he does usurp one it will be Maitland, I just don't see him being a better player than Maitland anytime soon.
That said,
when I win the euromillions I will be paying over the odds (in the form property investments) to have Goode lead Bedford into the Champions Cup from the flyhalf berth. So, there’s a 1 in 75,000,000 chance it could be Goode.
Re: Alex Shaw's premiership XV
Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 7:48 am
by Digby
Mellsblue wrote:Digby wrote:Mellsblue wrote: That said, it’s difficult to see who of Williams, Maitland and Goode he can usurp.
Is this one of those moments where we all nod sagely and then all say it's Maitland he'll usurp?
If he does usurp one it will be Maitland, I just don't see him being a better player than Maitland anytime soon.
That said,
when I win the euromillions I will be paying over the odds (in the form property investments) to have Goode lead Bedford into the Champions Cup from the flyhalf berth. So, there’s a 1 in 75,000,000 chance it could be Goode.
I was a big fan of Maitland back when he played in NZ, but in grown up rugby over here he looks lost
Re: Alex Shaw's premiership XV
Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 10:12 pm
by p/d
Mellsblue wrote:Digby wrote:Mellsblue wrote: That said, it’s difficult to see who of Williams, Maitland and Goode he can usurp.
Is this one of those moments where we all nod sagely and then all say it's Maitland he'll usurp?
If he does usurp one it will be Maitland, I just don't see him being a better player than Maitland anytime soon.
That said,
when I win the euromillions I will be paying over the odds (in the form property investments) to have Goode lead Bedford into the Champions Cup from the flyhalf berth. So, there’s a 1 in 75,000,000 chance it could be Goode.
Indeed. Daly is just lucky Marccelo is off and Strettle knocking playing rugby on the head.
Re: Alex Shaw's premiership XV
Posted: Sat May 25, 2019 10:16 pm
by morepork
Digby wrote:Mellsblue wrote:Digby wrote:
Is this one of those moments where we all nod sagely and then all say it's Maitland he'll usurp?
If he does usurp one it will be Maitland, I just don't see him being a better player than Maitland anytime soon.
That said,
when I win the euromillions I will be paying over the odds (in the form property investments) to have Goode lead Bedford into the Champions Cup from the flyhalf berth. So, there’s a 1 in 75,000,000 chance it could be Goode.
I was a big fan of Maitland back when he played in NZ, but in grown up rugby over here he looks lost
I’ll bite.
Caleb Ralph with flash boots.