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Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:39 am
by Freddo
The ice in Farrell's veins is melting in this humidity. Some shite kicking so far.
Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:39 am
by Which Tyler
bruce wrote:Which Tyler wrote:bruce wrote:
Nothing wrong with that tackle other than the height. Shame for the spectacle and competiveness of the game.
That's a pretty big "other than" - there was nothing wrong with it, apart from the fact that it was outright dangerous and rightly outlawed from the game
I don't disagree it's a red card offence, however Stom was intimating it was a shoulder charge as well.
Yeah, I'm not defending that bit - he had both arms out, and wrapped... about 3 feet above Farrell's head (exaggeration for effect)
Stom wrote:Farrell has learnt! He pulled out of what would have been a dangerous tackle!
Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:40 am
by switchskier
Banquo wrote:Oakboy wrote:Banquo wrote:
How so?
Tackle with player off the ground.
Not dangerous tho
Isn't there an argument that he took a player in the air and didn't return him safely to the ground? For the record I think it was sensible reffing and the right decision but with some other refs it would have been yellow and that's an issue.
Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:42 am
by Galfon
Great position lost by handling error in midfield.
Arg will be happy at being able to hang on though puffing
a bit.
Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:43 am
by Banquo
switchskier wrote:Banquo wrote:Oakboy wrote:
Tackle with player off the ground.
Not dangerous tho
Isn't there an argument that he took a player in the air and didn't return him safely to the ground? For the record I think it was sensible reffing and the right decision but with some other refs it would have been yellow and that's an issue.
You’ve answered your own question
Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:46 am
by Banquo
Billy should go off
Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:46 am
by hugh_woatmeigh
old-n-slo-2nd-row wrote:Stom wrote:It's been coming for a while, we've been talking about high tackles, leading with the shoulder, not wrapping, etc. So to be sent off for it should be no surprise. Get lower, don't lead with the shoulder, wrap your arms properly.
Secondly, yes, I agree. Lead with the shoulder, you're carded. Lead with the shoulder high, you're off permanently.
100%.
Australia this morning were still tackling like rugby league. Players should not need to “relearn”. We have been coaching to tackle low for ever .. it’s about time this is enforced as it is the only way it will change.
Should have issued the crack down at the start of last season though. It's ruining games by making them one sided.
Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:46 am
by WaspInWales
Daly passed a tad early then
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Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:48 am
by Banquo
WaspInWales wrote:Daly passed a tad early then
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Yep
Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:49 am
by WaspInWales
Ffs ice man
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Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:50 am
by old-n-slo-2nd-row
Agree, a game too far for Billy, way too many basic mistakes and minimal impact in the carries. Some nice movement for a change but not making the last pass. Try should have come earlier. Pressure pays off. Farrell still nailing it ..
Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:50 am
by Galfon
Nearly managed to blow that.
Try Daly , con missed, Faz. ( 7 points lost so far..)
Eng 10 - 3 Arg, 37 mins
Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:51 am
by Stom
bruce wrote:Which Tyler wrote:bruce wrote:
Nothing wrong with that tackle other than the height. Shame for the spectacle and competiveness of the game.
That's a pretty big "other than" - there was nothing wrong with it, apart from the fact that it was outright dangerous and rightly outlawed from the game
I don't disagree it's a red card offence, however Stom was intimating it was a shoulder charge as well.
Not a charge, but leading with the point of the shoulder. I hate it because if that point catches you, it's very dangerous. We're not taught that, we're taught a round shoulder because it gives you more control.
It's all for the "hit", which is just so wrong.
Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:51 am
by Banquo
Faz is having a blinder
Tho great touch there
Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:52 am
by Stom
Ice Man! Most unusual...It happened not so long ago...
Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:52 am
by Banquo
old-n-slo-2nd-row wrote:Agree, a game too far for Billy, way too many basic mistakes and minimal impact in the carries. Some nice movement for a change but not making the last pass. Try should have come earlier. Pressure pays off. Farrell still nailing it ..
I meant his ankle
Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:53 am
by WaspInWales
Fucking hell, Youngs is dreadful
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Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:54 am
by Stom
Why isn't dropping Curry a card? It's not a tackle but he dropped him on his head...
Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:54 am
by old-n-slo-2nd-row
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Should have issued the crack down at the start of last season though. It's ruining games by making them one sided.
They’ve been given “last last warning” for over a year. Maybe enforcing it at the World Cup is the only way the message will get through. Agree it is having a major effect on some matches but so it should. Tackle properly and you have no problems
Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:55 am
by WaspInWales
Redeemed [emoji23]
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Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:55 am
by Which Tyler
WaspInWales wrote:Fucking hell, Youngs is dreadful
Yes - but quoting you for the timing.
Now, how many upright posts is Farrell seeing at the moment?
Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:56 am
by Banquo
Youngs redeems himself a little after a succession of poor bits of distribution
Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:56 am
by WaspInWales
How many times did Youngs choose the wrong option then? We were close to being turned over a few times
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Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:56 am
by Which Tyler
Stom wrote:Why isn't dropping Curry a card? It's not a tackle but he dropped him on his head...
Probably because of Lavinini's red card. Reds often buy a little leniency for the other 14
Re: Eng - Arg: Match Thread
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:57 am
by old-n-slo-2nd-row
0/4?