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Re: The final round

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:09 am
by Digby
If you're Wuss why would you play Sale?

Re: The final round

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:14 am
by Mellsblue
Digby wrote:If you're a Wuss why would you play Sale?
FTFY

Re: The final round

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:47 am
by Digby
Mellsblue wrote:
Digby wrote:If you're a Wuss why would you play Sale?
FTFY
Ah, the Bolsanaro defence.

Re: The final round

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:57 am
by Mellsblue
Digby wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:
Digby wrote:If you're a Wuss why would you play Sale?
FTFY
Ah, the Bolsanaro defence.
Is that what Tigers’ defence coach calls his system?

Re: The final round

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:41 am
by fivepointer
Timbo wrote:Sale have issued a statement saying that their game will go ahead as planned.
I really dont see how it can.
Govt advice is for all close contacts to isolate. How can a game go ahead featuring players who have been in contact with positive cases?
If i was a Wuss player i wouldnt fancy it and they are right to seek assurances.

Re: The final round

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:48 am
by Which Tyler
fivepointer wrote:
Timbo wrote:Sale have issued a statement saying that their game will go ahead as planned.
I really dont see how it can.
Govt advice is for all close contacts to isolate. How can a game go ahead featuring players who have been in contact with positive cases?
If i was a Wuss player i wouldnt fancy it and they are right to seek assurances.
If they test negative after being a contact, then they're free to play (presumably - certainly free to no self-isolate).

The questions are - when was the last session (training or social) that would be deemed "close contact"? how many players were involved? what positions were they? and what cover can they russle up?
I absolutely expect it to be cancelled and forfeit, but it's not impossible.
FTR, I also think it's wrong that a single negative is enough to give the all clear, given the high rate of false negatives, but that's opinion, not guideline.

Re: The final round

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:01 am
by Mellsblue
Sale saying they can put out a XXIII that has had no contact with those who tested positive. Given the size of their squad that seems fanciful. The samples are also being retested in the hope they were false positives.
Regardless, it’s not in Sale’s hands.

Re: The final round

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:28 am
by Which Tyler
Mellsblue wrote:Sale saying they can put out a XXIII that has had no contact with those who tested positive. Given the size of their squad that seems fanciful. The samples are also being retested in the hope they were false positives.
Regardless, it’s not in Sale’s hands.
1sts yes; but they've got a decent enough academy haven't they? Not to mention that they're supposed contacting recently retired players asking them to come back; and that they may well be able to secure some loan players from somewhere like Newcastle.
Anyone got a list of Sale players who retired over the summer?
It may be a team full of ringers and kids - but I'd guess that that's better for everyone than a straight forfeit. Too many guests and it'll raise questions about the salary cap - but probably not too many if they're only paid for 1 week's work.

Bolded part is clutching at straws - not many false positives from these tests; loads of false negatives though.

It's unlikely that they'll be able to put out a full 23 - but not inconceivable. Only another 90 minutes before we find out.

Re: The final round

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:31 am
by Stom
Mellsblue wrote:Sale saying they can put out a XXIII that has had no contact with those who tested positive. Given the size of their squad that seems fanciful. The samples are also being retested in the hope they were false positives.
Regardless, it’s not in Sale’s hands.
If the positives are backs, I don't see a major problem, but Sale have a very light pack...they might struggle if too many are forwards.

Re: The final round

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:36 am
by Digby
Which Tyler wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:Sale saying they can put out a XXIII that has had no contact with those who tested positive. Given the size of their squad that seems fanciful. The samples are also being retested in the hope they were false positives.
Regardless, it’s not in Sale’s hands.
1sts yes; but they've got a decent enough academy haven't they? Not to mention that they're supposed contacting recently retired players asking them to come back; and that they may well be able to secure some loan players from somewhere like Newcastle.
Anyone got a list of Sale players who retired over the summer?
It may be a team full of ringers and kids - but I'd guess that that's better for everyone than a straight forfeit. Too many guests and it'll raise questions about the salary cap - but probably not too many if they're only paid for 1 week's work.

Bolded part is clutching at straws - not many false positives from these tests; loads of false negatives though.

It's unlikely that they'll be able to put out a full 23 - but not inconceivable. Only another 90 minutes before we find out.

Everyone bar Wuss, who can lock in a place in Europe without risking getting Covid if the match doesn't go ahead. And I really don't see how Sale didn't know about this, went ahead with contact training, and have enough people who haven't had direct contact or by proxy with infected persons

Re: The final round

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:38 am
by Digby
Mellsblue wrote:
Digby wrote:
Mellsblue wrote: FTFY
Ah, the Bolsanaro defence.
Is that what Tigers’ defence coach calls his system?
for that you have to blame it on the Bossa Nova

Re: The final round

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:51 am
by Raggs
Digby wrote:
Which Tyler wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:Sale saying they can put out a XXIII that has had no contact with those who tested positive. Given the size of their squad that seems fanciful. The samples are also being retested in the hope they were false positives.
Regardless, it’s not in Sale’s hands.
1sts yes; but they've got a decent enough academy haven't they? Not to mention that they're supposed contacting recently retired players asking them to come back; and that they may well be able to secure some loan players from somewhere like Newcastle.
Anyone got a list of Sale players who retired over the summer?
It may be a team full of ringers and kids - but I'd guess that that's better for everyone than a straight forfeit. Too many guests and it'll raise questions about the salary cap - but probably not too many if they're only paid for 1 week's work.

Bolded part is clutching at straws - not many false positives from these tests; loads of false negatives though.

It's unlikely that they'll be able to put out a full 23 - but not inconceivable. Only another 90 minutes before we find out.

Everyone bar Wuss, who can lock in a place in Europe without risking getting Covid if the match doesn't go ahead. And I really don't see how Sale didn't know about this, went ahead with contact training, and have enough people who haven't had direct contact or by proxy with infected persons
Well, can't imagine bristol would be upset either, gives them a much better chance of taking top 4.

Re: The final round

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:55 am
by Mellsblue
Digby wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:
Digby wrote:
Ah, the Bolsanaro defence.
Is that what Tigers’ defence coach calls his system?
for that you have to blame it on the Bossa Nova
I’d say Borthwick is more of a Vectra estate.

Re: The final round

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:58 am
by Mellsblue
Which Tyler wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:Sale saying they can put out a XXIII that has had no contact with those who tested positive. Given the size of their squad that seems fanciful. The samples are also being retested in the hope they were false positives.
Regardless, it’s not in Sale’s hands.
Bolded part is clutching at straws - not many false positives from these tests; loads of false negatives though.
Anywhere between 0.8% and 4%

Re: The final round

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:17 am
by Digby
Mellsblue wrote:
Digby wrote:
Mellsblue wrote: Is that what Tigers’ defence coach calls his system?
for that you have to blame it on the Bossa Nova
I’d say Borthwick is more of a Vectra estate.
Leicester are more a Titan Dump

Re: The final round

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:45 am
by Mellsblue
Digby wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:
Digby wrote:
for that you have to blame it on the Bossa Nova
I’d say Borthwick is more of a Vectra estate.
Leicester are more a Titan Dump
That’s the risk you run when you take on two Currys.

Re: The final round

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:27 pm
by Tigersman
So apparently Sale, Worcester and Saints all might have positive tests and that the round might be postponed?

Re: The final round

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:37 pm
by Which Tyler
Wuss as well? I thought they'd announced a team "in case the match goes ahead"

Re: The final round

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 1:34 pm
by Digby
Postponed? Has Theresa May taken on the job of fixtures secretary? For anyone who considers such comment around prevarication and delay too political feel free to insert the name of any prospective England #9 instead

Re: The final round

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 1:55 pm
by Raggs
Might have meant glaws who were delayed but have nowannounced.

Re: The final round

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:49 pm
by OnlyMonikerRemaining
If Wuss refuse to play do Sale still forfeit the game? Might be mind games at play here.

Re: The final round

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:02 pm
by fivepointer
BREAKING: Premiership Rugby confirm that Sale vs Worcester has been postponed to Wednesday.

Zero mention of Gloucester vs Northampton

Re: The final round

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:13 pm
by Digby
The integrity of something was going to break whatever the call

Re: The final round

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:27 pm
by fivepointer
BREAKING: Gloucester vs Northampton has been cancelled.

This is due to Saints now only having one hooker and one tighthead prop available.

Re: The final round

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:33 pm
by Shiny
fivepointer wrote:BREAKING: Gloucester vs Northampton has been cancelled.

This is due to Saints now only having one hooker and one tighthead prop available.
So following the rules Gloucester would get a 20-0 win and the points. Glad that doesn’t suck then and Sale get extra time to make up a squad.