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16th man wrote:

Banquo wrote:

16th man wrote:
Going with a tried and tested combination which has come off best against several highly vaunted back rows and is still young enough to develop?

Get off this board at once.

#worldcupfinal2019

But I agree

They weren't stellar but I'd put them a way down the list of things which went horribly wrong.

Not sure about that, actually.

I’d like see Ted Hill at 6 for at least two of the Autumn Tests, with Simmons at 8 and Curry at 7. Does the future lie with Billy V at 8? I’m not convinced.

I could see a pack of:

1 Mako
2 Cowan-Dickie
3 Stuart
4 Itoje
5 Launchbury
6 J Willis or Ludlum
7 Underhill
8 Dombrandt

As being a nice balance between form and versatility - Itoje aside the Saracens forwards need to prove they are still up to the job

Aside from his rather manic running style that shouts "energy" (to you) what is it you think Ludlam does better than Curry? Arguably a better lineout jumper. I'm drawing a blank on anything else though, and that's not a swipe at Ludlam in any sense.

Assuming you mean T Curry, he looks about the most natural footballer in the entire side. I can't fathom why anyone would leave him out, other than sabotage.

morepork wrote:Assuming you mean T Curry, he looks about the most natural footballer in the entire side. I can't fathom why anyone would leave him out, other than sabotage.

Ludlam's 2 inches taller; and therefore better at everything

Mikey Brown wrote:Aside from his rather manic running style that shouts "energy" (to you) what is it you think Ludlam does better than Curry? Arguably a better lineout jumper. I'm drawing a blank on anything else though, and that's not a swipe at Ludlam in any sense.

Right now it's significantly less risk of bringing Covid with him isn't it?

That aside we're back in surreal drop your best back row world.

morepork wrote:Assuming you mean T Curry, he looks about the most natural footballer in the entire side. I can't fathom why anyone would leave him out, other than sabotage.

I'd think he's one of the first three names on Eddie's team sheet. The other two being Owen and Farrell.

Puja wrote:

Beasties wrote:Is Barbeary on the scrap heap already? Sheeesh.

I don't see there being any point in giving caps to people who'll be too old for the 2035 RWC. Just a waste of precious opportunities to get caps into young players.

Puja

Here's a depressing fact. He'll only be 34 when the 2035 rwc kicks off... not over the hill for a hooker if he's stayed in shape...

Raggs wrote:

Puja wrote:

Beasties wrote:Is Barbeary on the scrap heap already? Sheeesh.

I don't see there being any point in giving caps to people who'll be too old for the 2035 RWC. Just a waste of precious opportunities to get caps into young players.

Puja

Here's a depressing fact. He'll only be 34 when the 2035 rwc kicks off... not over the hill for a hooker if he's stayed in shape...

Damn, that's how old I am now, ffs! I guess this is how Banquo and Dorset felt at the '91 world cup...

Stom wrote:

Raggs wrote:

Puja wrote:
I don't see there being any point in giving caps to people who'll be too old for the 2035 RWC. Just a waste of precious opportunities to get caps into young players.

Puja

Here's a depressing fact. He'll only be 34 when the 2035 rwc kicks off... not over the hill for a hooker if he's stayed in shape...

Damn, that's how old I am now, ffs! I guess this is how Banquo and Dorset felt at the '91 world cup...

cheeky fckr. Tho I was 29 then.

16th man wrote:

Mikey Brown wrote:Aside from his rather manic running style that shouts "energy" (to you) what is it you think Ludlam does better than Curry? Arguably a better lineout jumper. I'm drawing a blank on anything else though, and that's not a swipe at Ludlam in any sense.

Right now it's significantly less risk of bringing Covid with him isn't it?

That aside we're back in surreal drop your best back row world.

And I’m not even sure about that ... Ludlam is definitely self isolating at the moment. I’d assume Curry is too, but that means Ludlam doesn’t even have that ‘advantage’ right now.

Seriously, why do we even try with jngf on this? I’m never quite sure whether he’s trolling to spark a debate or just on another planet.

Banquo wrote:

Stom wrote:

Raggs wrote:
Here's a depressing fact. He'll only be 34 when the 2035 rwc kicks off... not over the hill for a hooker if he's stayed in shape...

Damn, that's how old I am now, ffs! I guess this is how Banquo and Dorset felt at the '91 world cup...

cheeky fckr. Tho I was 29 then.

Yer all young whippersnappers! I was 42 and got a last minute ticket for the final!

Scrumhead wrote:

16th man wrote:

Mikey Brown wrote:Aside from his rather manic running style that shouts "energy" (to you) what is it you think Ludlam does better than Curry? Arguably a better lineout jumper. I'm drawing a blank on anything else though, and that's not a swipe at Ludlam in any sense.

Right now it's significantly less risk of bringing Covid with him isn't it?

That aside we're back in surreal drop your best back row world.

And I’m not even sure about that ... Ludlam is definitely self isolating at the moment. I’d assume Curry is too, but that means Ludlam doesn’t even have that ‘advantage’ right now.

Seriously, why do we even try with jngf on this? I’m never quite sure whether he’s trolling to spark a debate or just on another planet.

Reminds me of the old england centre debates of 2009 to 2011 on the old rugby rebels forum. Tait vs Clark vs Allen vs Flutey vs Hape vs Erinle. Simpler times.

francoisfou wrote:

Banquo wrote:

Stom wrote:
Damn, that's how old I am now, ffs! I guess this is how Banquo and Dorset felt at the '91 world cup...

cheeky fckr. Tho I was 29 then.

Yer all young whippersnappers! I was 42 and got a last minute ticket for the final!

I was 43. 14 years on this board now. Bring back Worsley v Moody.

jngf wrote:I could see a pack of:

1 Mako
2 Cowan-Dickie
3 Stuart
4 Itoje
5 Launchbury
6 J Willis or Ludlum
7 Underhill
8 Dombrandt

As being a nice balance between form and versatility - Itoje aside the Saracens forwards need to prove they are still up to the job

Mako, George, Sinckler
Itoje, J Hill
Underhill, Willis, Curry

Stick with the first four we know work well together, bring in some extra set piece grunt in Hill though he's generally a nuisance around the pitch as well. Underhill, Willis and Curry are all action.

LCD, Genge, Stuart, T Hill, Vunipola

Plenty of extra mobility and physicality on the bench.

Oakboy wrote:

francoisfou wrote:

Banquo wrote: cheeky fckr. Tho I was 29 then.

Yer all young whippersnappers! I was 42 and got a last minute ticket for the final!

I was 43. 14 years on this board now. Bring back Worsley v Moody.

Surely that was never a question. You start Moody then when he knocks himself out you bring on Worsley.

FKAS wrote:

Oakboy wrote: I was 43. 14 years on this board now. Bring back Worsley v Moody.

Surely that was never a question. You start Moody then when he knocks himself out you bring on Worsley.

Oh you sweet summer child...

Lol

I miss beefy now

Man I do wish John Clarke had been the player he looked in that one 4-minute highlight reel though.

Mikey Brown wrote:Man I do wish John Clarke had been the player he looked in that one 4-minute highlight reel though.

The only who could have possibly broken the invincible Olly Barkley / Ollie Smith midfield

Stom wrote:I miss beefy now

And Juggler!

Allen/ Clarke could have been our Flatley/ Mortlock. What could have been. If only Geraghty Hipkiss kicked on. Some truly hilarious centre combos back in the day

Which Tyler wrote:

Mikey Brown wrote:Man I do wish John Clarke had been the player he looked in that one 4-minute highlight reel though.

The only who could have possibly broken the invincible Olly Barkley / Ollie Smith midfield

Ah Ollie Smith, so close to going to 2003 RWC and then barely played for England again. Never really forgave Loffreda for forcing him out of Tigers.