Re: Are we turning into an Ashton Lynch Mob?
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 10:57 pm
Who is the biggest chav? Ashton of Farrell?
Farrell for me. The hair is pure sports direct.morepork wrote:Who is the biggest chav? Ashton of Farrell?
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Farrell for me. The hair is pure sports direct.morepork wrote:Who is the biggest chav? Ashton of Farrell?
Saints and Sarries game plans are not designed around their wingers though, its generally been around kicking for territory, set piece & forward domination with big midfield tackling for as long as ashtons been around. Why has he scored so many tries? Because he's a quality finishing wingerWhich Tyler wrote:I'd managed to forget that bit until this thread - utterly absurd decision.Epaminondas Pules wrote:They both got yellow carded.......
As for his place in the England team - he well deserved his first 20 caps; it's his last 20 caps that he didn't (which is about 10 caps to decide that he's "lost it" or "can't play this system").
He is a very good player when used the right way; which both his clubs, and his early England career did; (basically work your arse off, go looking, run lines, offer options to the play-maker/break-maker; and we'll cover you in defence). He's basically useless in the wrong system, such as his latter 20 caps (stick to your wing, chase poor kicks and defend like a maniac).However well he played in a system designed around him, he could never transfer that into a system almost designed to neuter him.
This does not make him a bad rugby player; it just means that a game-plan has to be essentially designed around him (or that he be recruited into that very specific game-plan) for him to be effective. It also means that in any other game-plan he's somewhere between ineffective and liability (depending on how poorly suited he is to it).
I'd further suggest than his inability to adapt makes him not-international-class. It's Lancaster's fault that he got those latter 20 caps having proven unable to play Lancaster's game-plan.
If you hitch a race-horse up to a plough, don't be surprised if it looks incompetent.
Quademorepork wrote:Who is the biggest chav? Ashton of Farrell?
I think you may have missed the point of the thread.CONVEX HULL wrote:So, how many tries do you think that he will score on Saturday?
I'm sure this thread isn't here to rile Sarries fans. It's also not here to discuss how effective Ashton is for Sarries.CONVEX HULL wrote:Not at all, I wouldn't want to have many players at a dinner party that I organise. I am interested if they consistently score tries for the team that I follow. The fact that some people here don't like him is a matter of supreme indifference to Sarries' fans.
Banquo wrote:Quademorepork wrote:Who is the biggest chav? Ashton of Farrell?
The lady doth protest too much methinksCONVEX HULL wrote:Not at all, I wouldn't want to have many players at a dinner party that I organise. I am interested if they consistently score tries for the team that I follow. The fact that some people here don't like him is a matter of supreme indifference to Sarries' fans.
(Christ the reverse is a short list) but the extreme other endskidger wrote:Although we now have an idea for a new thread. Rugby players you would not invite to a dinner party you organise.
I'm probably being a little hasty in fairness, but a deadline is a deadline!skidger wrote:Also two people from Wigan in that list. I know it is pointless hell hole but are we turning into a Wigan lynch mob?
CiprianiBanquo wrote:(Christ the reverse is a short list) but the extreme other endskidger wrote:Although we now have an idea for a new thread. Rugby players you would not invite to a dinner party you organise.
Murdoch
Cockerill
Loe
Archer
Palmie
Joseph
Clark
Cecillon
Bishop
Quade Cooper
Guildford (he'd drink everything)
Farrell
Carling
Ashton
Armitage
I don't hate Cipriani but he would drink all the beers with Beale and Guildford.Mikey Brown wrote:I can't actually remember why it is some people hate Cipriani. There's too many good English candidates already though, sadly.
Beale is a great shout. He looks like he has a dark secret.
Cips is harmless I'd have said, just not terribly good at self advice. Beale...good point. Drop Carling and stick faz at 13.Len wrote:CiprianiBanquo wrote:(Christ the reverse is a short list) but the extreme other endskidger wrote:Although we now have an idea for a new thread. Rugby players you would not invite to a dinner party you organise.
Murdoch
Cockerill
Loe
Archer
Palmie
Joseph
Clark
Cecillon
Bishop
Quade Cooper
Guildford (he'd drink everything)
Farrell
Carling
Ashton
Armitage
Beale
The enchantment of Maria is only heightened by the ban. Those thighs, tensing, before gently easing their grip.........I digress. Back to Ashton's boyish good looks and carefree demeanourMellsblue wrote:I'm sure this thread isn't here to rile Sarries fans. It's also not here to discuss how effective Ashton is for Sarries.CONVEX HULL wrote:Not at all, I wouldn't want to have many players at a dinner party that I organise. I am interested if they consistently score tries for the team that I follow. The fact that some people here don't like him is a matter of supreme indifference to Sarries' fans.
The thread is about whether we are objective in our assessment of Ashton. Not whether he scores enough tries for Sarries. Noting how many tries he scores for Sarries is like discussing how fit Sharapova is only for someone to mention she is serving a drugs ban.