Briatol vs Sale, Euro QF rd2

[Cameo]

I don't get that refereeing decision - it's a clear and undeniable penalty try, so the fact that a Sale player then grounds the ball and scores a try in the corner should be largely irrelevant. Should be the automatic penalty try and yellow card - the fact that Sale then missed the conversion could be crucial, never mind the effect that having Randall yellow carded could have made.

Puja

Apparently that's not an option. Happened in a Hurricanes game recently and the ref explained that he couldn't award a penalty try as a try had not been prevented (as it was scored anyway). Could definitely give the card though.

[Puja]

I don't get that refereeing decision - it's a clear and undeniable penalty try, so the fact that a Sale player then grounds the ball and scores a try in the corner should be largely irrelevant. Should be the automatic penalty try and yellow card - the fact that Sale then missed the conversion could be crucial, never mind the effect that having Randall yellow carded could have made.

Puja

Apparently that's not an option. Happened in a Hurricanes game recently and the ref explained that he couldn't award a penalty try as a try had not been prevented (as it was scored anyway). Could definitely give the card though.

That is bananas and makes little to no sense, so it's absolutely something that's in rugby's lawbook. Another example and discussion of it here: https://rugby365.com/laws-referees/law- ... nalty-try/

Seems like a very odd inconsistency to have in the lawbook and feels like it incentivises incompetence - if the Sale player hadn't put in the work to be following up and grounding it, then it would've been 7 points but, because he was diligent, it's only 5.

I'd also be in favour of penalty tries being awarded to the player who was denied the try by the foul play, rather than Mr P Try. Seems unfair to rob a player of their personal score.

Puja

[Mikey Brown]

Would the kickers also get the 2 points?

[Puja]

Would the kickers also get the 2 points?

...excellent question and one to which I don't have the answer. What do you think?

Puja

[Cameo]

I don't get that refereeing decision - it's a clear and undeniable penalty try, so the fact that a Sale player then grounds the ball and scores a try in the corner should be largely irrelevant. Should be the automatic penalty try and yellow card - the fact that Sale then missed the conversion could be crucial, never mind the effect that having Randall yellow carded could have made.

Puja

Apparently that's not an option. Happened in a Hurricanes game recently and the ref explained that he couldn't award a penalty try as a try had not been prevented (as it was scored anyway). Could definitely give the card though.

That is bananas and makes little to no sense, so it's absolutely something that's in rugby's lawbook. Another example and discussion of it here: https://rugby365.com/laws-referees/law- ... nalty-try/

Seems like a very odd inconsistency to have in the lawbook and feels like it incentivises incompetence - if the Sale player hadn't put in the work to be following up and grounding it, then it would've been 7 points but, because he was diligent, it's only 5.

I'd also be in favour of penalty tries being awarded to the player who was denied the try by the foul play, rather than Mr P Try. Seems unfair to rob a player of their personal score.

Puja

This may interest you then...https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super ... sing-tries

[Mikey Brown]

Would the kickers also get the 2 points?

...excellent question and one to which I don't have the answer. What do you think?

Puja

One without the other doesn’t seem fair, but 2 points to whoever is the nominated kicker seems wrong as well, so I’m saying stick with it as is.

Feels harsh when it’s a winger who is a judged largely on try count, but I’d think most of these are rolling maul tries that would only be scored those bastard little hookers.