Re: England u20 24/25 Season
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2025 3:02 pm
The Bath front 5 are hardly knarly old vets. The locks are 21 and 22 and the hooker is 21. I guess a year or two at this level can make a big difference.
After being included in the England squad during September, Reuben Logan will end up representing Scotland in the Six Nations. You reckoned he would have been a starter EP, so Logan actually had a choice to make rather than England just not rating him.Epaminondas Pules wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 11:32 pm England U20 Men 2024/25 Elite Player Squad
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Reuben Logan (Northampton Saints)
Noticed (former England U18) Will Wooton from Sale was in the Ireland squad. Although they've not selected him for the game on Thursday. Not sure if that's because he's injured or they've got better players than Wooton.fivepointer wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:52 amScrum Half:
Stocks at 9 are in good shape with Archie McParland and also the outstanding Lucas Friday in the mix. Jonny Weimann, who was released by Saracens at 16, has grown hugely at six form and been rewarded with a number of England U18 caps. Worth noting Hanson too, who also played up at England U19 this season.
Archie McParland (Northampton Saints)
Lucas Friday (Harlequins)
Jonny Weimann (Northampton Saints)
Dom Hanson (Sale Sharks)
Does the Sale website have his date of birth wrong then?Epaminondas Pules wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 9:23 amYeah he's a 2005 birth, so good for this year too.FKAS wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 7:13 amRedshaw still qualifies as well? Damn. That's going to be some backline.Epaminondas Pules wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:06 pm
It’s a very competitive age group. I liked the look of Pearson I must say.
Davies is a big step up from last years 10s. Friday is quality. We lost both starting centres from last year. Lilley was always going to be nailed on for 13 this year.
Add in Hall and Redshaw and it looks that bit more polished. And Archie McP too to battle with Friday for the 9 shirt.
Pearson is only 18, I think Kinder is pretty young as well so they should get at least two maybe three years at this level anyway.
All depends on birth year. If they're still 18 now, being in the post January side of the school year, then they'll have two years at this level. Ollie Davies, for example, was 19 in December so he'll only get one year at this level. Angus Hall played last year as a school kid, but as a September birth only gets this year eligibility wise; Bracken the same, but Friday has two years being a July 2006 birth.
Scottish, surely?FKAS wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 7:32 am Reuben Logan is a big unit and has been playing Nat 1 level for Leicester Lions. I assume he's gone down the route that will give him the most initial game time. May switch again before seniors.
Joe Davis did look electric for Falcons but hasn't featured recently. If Diamond rates him so highly he should go back to playing him more regularly.
Logan? He might go down the under 20s route there and then reconsider again at senior level. He was born and raised down south I believe. His dad is Scottish but Gabby is English and his grandad is Welsh so he's got multiple qualification up his sleeve so can pick what suits him best later on.twitchy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 11:39 amScottish, surely?FKAS wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 7:32 am Reuben Logan is a big unit and has been playing Nat 1 level for Leicester Lions. I assume he's gone down the route that will give him the most initial game time. May switch again before seniors.
Joe Davis did look electric for Falcons but hasn't featured recently. If Diamond rates him so highly he should go back to playing him more regularly.
Gabby represented Wales at the Commonwealth GamesFKAS wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:16 pmLogan? He might go down the under 20s route there and then reconsider again at senior level. He was born and raised down south I believe. His dad is Scottish but Gabby is English and his grandad is Welsh so he's got multiple qualification up his sleeve so can pick what suits him best later on.twitchy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 11:39 amScottish, surely?FKAS wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 7:32 am Reuben Logan is a big unit and has been playing Nat 1 level for Leicester Lions. I assume he's gone down the route that will give him the most initial game time. May switch again before seniors.
Joe Davis did look electric for Falcons but hasn't featured recently. If Diamond rates him so highly he should go back to playing him more regularly.
Good point, I'd forgotten about that.Banquo wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 2:05 pmGabby represented Wales at the Commonwealth GamesFKAS wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:16 pmLogan? He might go down the under 20s route there and then reconsider again at senior level. He was born and raised down south I believe. His dad is Scottish but Gabby is English and his grandad is Welsh so he's got multiple qualification up his sleeve so can pick what suits him best later on.![]()
Yeah. Ollie is 19 now. They’ve got the wrong year for some reason.Slater582 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:30 am Apparently Pollock would've been skipper had he not been unavailable training with the Senior squad. Didn't expect Burrow to be named Captain, given this will be his first international U20 cap and there are quite a few lads returning from a successful 2024.
After being included in the England squad during September, Reuben Logan will end up representing Scotland in the Six Nations. You reckoned he would have been a starter EP, so Logan actually had a choice to make rather than England just not rating him.Epaminondas Pules wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 11:32 pm England U20 Men 2024/25 Elite Player Squad
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Reuben Logan (Northampton Saints)
I saw him described as 6'5, very talented and plays number 8 so disappointing he hasn't stayed with England. Given his father, guess it was always going to be difficult for the England coaches.![]()
Noticed (former England U18) Will Wooton from Sale was in the Ireland squad. Although they've not selected him for the game on Thursday. Not sure if that's because he's injured or they've got better players than Wooton.fivepointer wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:52 amScrum Half:
Stocks at 9 are in good shape with Archie McParland and also the outstanding Lucas Friday in the mix. Jonny Weimann, who was released by Saracens at 16, has grown hugely at six form and been rewarded with a number of England U18 caps. Worth noting Hanson too, who also played up at England U19 this season.
Archie McParland (Northampton Saints)
Lucas Friday (Harlequins)
Jonny Weimann (Northampton Saints)
Dom Hanson (Sale Sharks)
Also Steve Diamond was complaining about (another former England U18 scrum half) Joe Davis not being selected. Having been born on New year's Eve, Davis will not be eligible next year.
Does the Sale website have his date of birth wrong then?Epaminondas Pules wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 9:23 amYeah he's a 2005 birth, so good for this year too.
All depends on birth year. If they're still 18 now, being in the post January side of the school year, then they'll have two years at this level. Ollie Davies, for example, was 19 in December so he'll only get one year at this level. Angus Hall played last year as a school kid, but as a September birth only gets this year eligibility wise; Bracken the same, but Friday has two years being a July 2006 birth.https://www.salesharks.com/player/ollie-davies/
I think if you knock the attacker backwards, and move forwards yourself after contact, you'd need a really compelling reason to call it a low degree of danger.
But he's doubled down by being about a week late, desrved redCaptainhaircut wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:07 pm Never a high degree of danger that. He’s barely even moving forward.