Obviously. of course if you weren't biased you might check how many are based on Corbyn policies completely or in part. Only 7/20 are original ideas according to the mirror (not my usual source) http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ow ... es-8502852
If only we had less unthinking drone behaviour like yours, we might have a far better democracy...
Obviously. of course if you weren't biased you might check how many are based on Corbyn policies completely or in part. Only 7/20 are original ideas according to the mirror (not my usual source) http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ow ... es-8502852
If only we had less unthinking drone behaviour like yours, we might have a far better democracy...
You really must learn the difference between slogans and policies.
Re: Blairites staging a coup...
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:22 am
by UGagain
That's rich.
Re: Blairites staging a coup...
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:31 am
by Sandydragon
Zhivago wrote:It's pathetic and depressing how consistently the Right's propaganda is propagated by the same posters on here without any critical examination whatsoever. I guess due to confirmation bias they automatically accept that in tune with their pre-programmed ideology.
Re: Blairites staging a coup...
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:16 am
by UGagain
Sandydragon wrote:
Zhivago wrote:It's pathetic and depressing how consistently the Right's propaganda is propagated by the same posters on here without any critical examination whatsoever. I guess due to confirmation bias they automatically accept that in tune with their pre-programmed ideology.
You can laugh and condescend all you want but the fact is that you all parrot the narrative of the authorities no matter what.
And when it becomes unsustainable you apologise for them. And then you attack the naysayers.
Re: Blairites staging a coup...
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:43 am
by Sandydragon
UGagain wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:
Zhivago wrote:It's pathetic and depressing how consistently the Right's propaganda is propagated by the same posters on here without any critical examination whatsoever. I guess due to confirmation bias they automatically accept that in tune with their pre-programmed ideology.
You can laugh and condescend all you want but the fact is that you all parrot the narrative of the authorities no matter what.
And when it becomes unsustainable you apologise for them. And then you attack the naysayers.
You're right, I can laugh. Very loudly and at great length. I'm laughing right now as it happens.
Re: Blairites staging a coup...
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:19 pm
by Zhivago
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
Zhivago wrote:
Zhivago wrote:
Obviously. of course if you weren't biased you might check how many are based on Corbyn policies completely or in part. Only 7/20 are original ideas according to the mirror (not my usual source) http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ow ... es-8502852
If only we had less unthinking drone behaviour like yours, we might have a far better democracy...
You really must learn the difference between slogans and policies.
Get over yourself - Definition of a policy "a course or principle of action adopted or proposed by an organization or individual." Describes perfectly what you just mocked as slogans.
Re: Blairites staging a coup...
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:23 pm
by Zhivago
Sandydragon wrote:
UGagain wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:
You can laugh and condescend all you want but the fact is that you all parrot the narrative of the authorities no matter what.
And when it becomes unsustainable you apologise for them. And then you attack the naysayers.
You're right, I can laugh. Very loudly and at great length. I'm laughing right now as it happens.
It's almost a rule, isn't it? If you can't counter-argue it, ridicule it - even if it means nothing more than just laughing. Such a simpleton you are.
Re: Blairites staging a coup...
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:18 pm
by Zhivago
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
Zhivago wrote:
Zhivago wrote:
Obviously. of course if you weren't biased you might check how many are based on Corbyn policies completely or in part. Only 7/20 are original ideas according to the mirror (not my usual source) http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ow ... es-8502852
If only we had less unthinking drone behaviour like yours, we might have a far better democracy...
"Owen Smith might happen to simply agree with Jeremy Corbyn on a lot of things. But if the latter is the problem for Labour, why is Mr Smith so keen on copying him? "
Re: Blairites staging a coup...
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:01 am
by UGagain
Sandydragon wrote:
UGagain wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:
You can laugh and condescend all you want but the fact is that you all parrot the narrative of the authorities no matter what.
And when it becomes unsustainable you apologise for them. And then you attack the naysayers.
You're right, I can laugh. Very loudly and at great length. I'm laughing right now as it happens.
In what universe do they think they'll persuade a court that they're the real Labour party despite splitting away from the Labour Party? Some of these people are proper idiots.
In what universe do they think they'll persuade a court that they're the real Labour party despite splitting away from the Labour Party? Some of these people are proper idiots.
Smells like desperation to me. And a fear of actually starting a new party.
If that does happen, the May must surely consider an early election. With her honeymoon period still in effect and the opposition totally hopeless, the idea of forcing an election and making her troublesome backbenchers less of a problem must be a real temptation.
The only snag is that with the Brexit negotiations due to start and urgent planning needed, the interruption caused by a GE could be a real distraction.
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Re: Blairites staging a coup...
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:41 pm
by Zhivago
Nice audience reaction when Owen Smith claims he didn't partake in the coup.
Re: Blairites staging a coup...
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 8:57 am
by Digby
Zhivago wrote:
Nice audience reaction when Owen Smith claims he didn't partake in the coup.
I'll go out on a limb on and guess they weren't happy to see someone try to unseat the Glorious Leader® in a manner in which the Glorious Leader® himself tried to usurp leader after leader. It's just possible such hyprocrisy will not play well with the electorate, though the fundamentalist regime sweeping Labour seems oblivious to the idea they'll need some votes.
Re: Blairites staging a coup...
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:18 am
by Sandydragon
Digby wrote:
Zhivago wrote:
Nice audience reaction when Owen Smith claims he didn't partake in the coup.
I'll go out on a limb on and guess they weren't happy to see someone try to unseat the Glorious Leader® in a manner in which the Glorious Leader® himself tried to usurp leader after leader. It's just possible such hyprocrisy will not play well with the electorate, though the fundamentalist regime sweeping Labour seems oblivious to the idea they'll need some votes.
Latest polls show labour flagging hugely. But that's all right in the students union politics of labour today, it's all about purity of protest.
Re: Blairites staging a coup...
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:24 am
by UGagain
Sandydragon wrote:
Digby wrote:
Zhivago wrote:
Nice audience reaction when Owen Smith claims he didn't partake in the coup.
I'll go out on a limb on and guess they weren't happy to see someone try to unseat the Glorious Leader® in a manner in which the Glorious Leader® himself tried to usurp leader after leader. It's just possible such hyprocrisy will not play well with the electorate, though the fundamentalist regime sweeping Labour seems oblivious to the idea they'll need some votes.
Latest polls show labour flagging hugely. But that's all right in the students union politics of labour today, it's all about purity of protest.
You don't have a single clue about the motivations of these people.
They are on an intellectual level far beyond your understanding.
Your attempts to condescend to people with far higher intellectual capacity than your obvious limits just makes you look like an adolescent dick.
Re: Blairites staging a coup...
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:31 am
by Sandydragon
UGagain wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:
Digby wrote:
I'll go out on a limb on and guess they weren't happy to see someone try to unseat the Glorious Leader® in a manner in which the Glorious Leader® himself tried to usurp leader after leader. It's just possible such hyprocrisy will not play well with the electorate, though the fundamentalist regime sweeping Labour seems oblivious to the idea they'll need some votes.
Latest polls show labour flagging hugely. But that's all right in the students union politics of labour today, it's all about purity of protest.
You don't have a single clue about the motivations of these people.
They are on an intellectual level far beyond your understanding.
Your attempts to condescend to people with far higher intellectual capacity than your obvious limits just makes you look like an adolescent dick.
Classic UG. I'm right, everyone else is wrong, or just plain thick.
Awesome argument.
Re: Blairites staging a coup...
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:34 am
by UGagain
Sandydragon wrote:
UGagain wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:
Latest polls show labour flagging hugely. But that's all right in the students union politics of labour today, it's all about purity of protest.
You don't have a single clue about the motivations of these people.
They are on an intellectual level far beyond your understanding.
Your attempts to condescend to people with far higher intellectual capacity than your obvious limits just makes you look like an adolescent dick.
Classic UG. I'm right, everyone else is wrong, or just plain thick.
Awesome argument.
What irony, given your condescension to Corbyn and his supporters that my comment addressed.
Re: Blairites staging a coup...
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:35 am
by Sandydragon
UGagain wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:
UGagain wrote:
You don't have a single clue about the motivations of these people.
They are on an intellectual level far beyond your understanding.
Your attempts to condescend to people with far higher intellectual capacity than your obvious limits just makes you look like an adolescent dick.
Classic UG. I'm right, everyone else is wrong, or just plain thick.
Awesome argument.
What irony, given your condescension to Corbyn and his supporters that my comment addressed.
You might want to check your green house for cracks in the glass.
Re: Blairites staging a coup...
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:42 am
by Digby
Sandydragon wrote:
UGagain wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:
Classic UG. I'm right, everyone else is wrong, or just plain thick.
Awesome argument.
What irony, given your condescension to Corbyn and his supporters that my comment addressed.
You might want to check your green house for cracks in the glass.
In fairness to the Glorious Leader® he has a plan to invest in some rather pricey stained glass for the greenhouse, and then he's going to start throwing stones.
Re: Blairites staging a coup...
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:45 am
by UGagain
Sandydragon wrote:
UGagain wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:
Classic UG. I'm right, everyone else is wrong, or just plain thick.
Awesome argument.
What irony, given your condescension to Corbyn and his supporters that my comment addressed.
You might want to check your green house for cracks in the glass.
Oh how witty.
I am in fact not a Corbyn supporter.
But I'll criticise him and his organisation on the issues rather than make snide adolescent remarks like you and your Digby fellow troll do.
Thanks.
Re: Blairites staging a coup...
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:48 am
by UGagain
Digby wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:
UGagain wrote:
What irony, given your condescension to Corbyn and his supporters that my comment addressed.
You might want to check your green house for cracks in the glass.
In fairness to the Glorious Leader® he has a plan to invest in some rather pricey stained glass for the greenhouse, and then he's going to start throwing stones.
This is just the sort of polite intellectual discussion that Sandy is looking for here in the politics section of RR.
And we, the plebs, are not allowed to call you fascists.
