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Re: Super Rugby
Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 3:16 pm
by rowan
Maalesef! Personally I'm backing the Lions then. Hope they can win their first title. It'll be good for the comp.
Re: Super Rugby
Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 3:42 pm
by rowan
TBH, it's the best result for a competition which has been Kiwi-dominated and predictable this year. Now we have an international final at Ellis Park which could easily go either way.
Re: Super Rugby
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:59 pm
by morepork
Ellis Park will be white hot. Should be a good dogfight this one. Crusaders easily the best traveling soup team.
Re: Super Rugby
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:14 pm
by rowan
I'll take the Lions. It would be kind of ironic in a year which has seen such overwhelming Kiwi domination, but the home-team are obviously a quality side and are hungry for their first title. The pain of 2016 will drive them on. They're in pretty much the same position as the Canes were in last year's final.
Re: Super Rugby
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:07 pm
by paddy no 11
The disallowed nanai Williams try was pretty harsh imo
McKenzie is a good bit of stuff
Re: Super Rugby
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:31 am
by canta_brian
So Jaco Peyper to ref the final. Way to go SANZAR, as if this competition didn't look idiotic enough. They have claimed he is the best ref and therefore gets the final. This suggests they see no problem with his performance last week, and guarantees that no matter what happens this week there will be complaints of bias. Either he will be seen as having favoured a SA side (again) or the will be accused of letting Canterbury away with murder for fear of being accused of bias.
Re: Super Rugby
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:32 am
by cashead
Angus Gardiner to ref, Peyper with one flag, Glen Jackson with the other. George Ayoub up in the TMO box, because he's actually pretty good at that. That's what the appointments should have been.
Re: Super Rugby
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:45 pm
by rowan
SANZAAR has completely lost the plot over the past couple of years. How straightforward it would be to appoint an Aussie ref for this fixture, and then nobody could possibly complain. They already screwed up the competition by trying to squeeze the Sunpoodles into a Southern Hemisphere competition so that 3 good teams had to be sacrificed as a result and the Blues went up to Tokyo and got beaten by a vastly inferior opponent in 40 degree heat. There's some really, really dumb decision-making going on at the moment, and a few heads should roll...
Re: Super Rugby
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:37 am
by rowan
Well done, Laumape!
2017 Hurricanes Awards
Player of the Year:
Winner: Ngani Laumape
Finalists: Laumape, Ardie Savea, Brad Shields
Best & Fairest:
Winners: Ngani Laumape, Matt Proctor, Ardie Savea
Finalists: Laumape, Proctor, Ardie Savea
Rookie of the Year:
Winner: Jordie Barrett
Finalists: Barrett, Sam Lousi, Reed Prinsep
Team Man of the Year:
Winner: Callum Gibbins
Finalists: Gibbins, Reg Goodes, Brad Shields
Super XV Award:
Winner: Geoff Cridge
Finalists: Cridge, Jonah Lowe, Kylem O'Donnell
Milestones:
100 Matches: Julian Savea, Dane Coles
50 Matches: Ardie Savea, Ben May, Chris Eves
International Representatives:
All Blacks: Ngani Laumape, Jordie Barrett, Dane Coles, TJ Perenara, Ardie Savea, Julian Savea, Beauden Barrett, Vaea Fifita
Maori All Blacks: Otere Black, Chris Eves, Mike Kainga, Ben May, Nehe Milner-Skudder, Reed Prinsep, Matt Proctor, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
NZ Under 20s: Asafo Aumua, Isaia Walker-Leawere, Kemara Hauiti-Parapara, Alex Fidow
Hurricanes debuts: James Blackwell, James O'Reilly, Jordie Barrett, Pita Ahki, Ben Lam, Reed Prinsep, Toa Halafihi, Hugh Renton, Sam Lousi
Departing players: Mark Abbott (Japan), Otere Black (Blues), Loni Uhila (France), Callum Gibbins (Scotland), Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi (Chiefs), Leni Apisai, Cory Jane
https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/the-canes/ ... rds-night/
Re: Super Rugby
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:17 pm
by rowan
canta_brian wrote:So Jaco Peyper to ref the final. Way to go SANZAR, as if this competition didn't look idiotic enough. They have claimed he is the best ref and therefore gets the final. This suggests they see no problem with his performance last week, and guarantees that no matter what happens this week there will be complaints of bias. Either he will be seen as having favoured a SA side (again) or the will be accused of letting Canterbury away with murder for fear of being accused of bias.
Who was the ref in last year's final?
Meanwhile, 5 reasons why SA Rugby Magazine is absolutely sure the Lions will win (they were also absolutely sure they would win last week - and they were right, of course):
http://www.sarugbymag.co.za/blog/detail ... gby-trophy
Re: Super Rugby
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:32 pm
by rowan
Saders storm out to a 0-12 lead but Lions pull back a penalty. 3-12 late first half. Remember the Canes blew a big lead against the Lions last week. But the Saders are not the Canes...
Re: Super Rugby
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:38 pm
by Banquo
Peyper is a massive homer so far- ludicrous appointment.
Re: Super Rugby
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:42 pm
by Banquo
needs to be a red I'm afraid- he makes the right call, fair play.
Re: Super Rugby
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:47 pm
by rowan
Lions get a red card and it remains 3-15 at the break. Crusaders are just too good.
Re: Super Rugby
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:50 pm
by Banquo
rowan wrote:Lions get a red card and it remains 3-12 at the break. Crusaders are just too good.
red card has shifted the balance; the Lions were breaking a lot of tackles, but making errors both forced and unforced at the wrong time. Difficult to see the Lions capitalising on (altitude) fatigue like they did last week with a player down.
(and the Crusaders are excellent)
Re: Super Rugby
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:08 pm
by rowan
3-22. No comeback today. That red card was it. Just a matter of how much the Saders win their 8th title by now...
Re: Super Rugby
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:29 pm
by rowan
Lions not giving up, and score their first try midway 2nd half. 10-25. Another try would make it interesting.
Re: Super Rugby
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:35 pm
by Banquo
Indeed. Crusaders still dropping off first up tackles and its now costing, Altitude is a bu55er
Re: Super Rugby
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:36 pm
by rowan
Lions answered the call. That's another try. 17-25 needing two scores in the last 5 minutes plus stoppage time. Seems the travel and rarified air have finally caught up with the Saders. They'll hang on though.
Re: Super Rugby
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:38 pm
by Banquo
daft pen. This will go down to the wire- fantastic from Lions.
Re: Super Rugby
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:43 pm
by Banquo
Crusaders making crucial steals and turnovers to stop Lions momentum. Great win away at altitude, but great fight from Lions man down.
Crotty really is a good player, does so many good things.
Re: Super Rugby
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:46 pm
by rowan
Yes, could have been a very different story but for the red card. Saders do it again. title 8 in the bag. The Real Madrid of Rugby!!
Re: Super Rugby
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 7:44 am
by rowan
& you thought the Canes fans got carried away!
Re: Super Rugby
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:36 am
by rowan
It's gets worse
Re: Super Rugby
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 12:43 pm
by canta_brian
Was the red card justified? I tend to see these things as a player ending up under a player more than someone taking someone out intentionally. Obviously the opportunity for serious injury means cards, but sometimes I wonder if it does merit the section from a foul play pov