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Coco wrote:My take on it is simply... I dont believe the numbers are complete or accurate... yet. Its all over the place depending how its looked at or who is reporting it. I do wonder why there arent bio-hazard recepicles placed in public places so we can properly dispose of used masks, etc. Are we supposed to burn them... reuse them... ?

So, you don't think 220,000+ Americans have died due to COVID-19?

Biohazard receptacles? Are you incapable of putting a used face mask into a bag and then binning it?

Does the US have bins placed in public places?

Shit...are things really that bad under Trump?

Perhaps vote the turd out.

Coco wrote:Why arent any of you talking about Hunter Bidens laptop?

Here, where we talked about the Hunter Biden laptop non-story all of one page back from your enquiry: http://rugbyrebels.co/board/viewtopic.p ... 50#p220873

This encapsulates the "Hunter Biden scandal" in a nutshell actually. It's not about a discussion, it's about being able to angrily demand, "Why isn't this discussion happening?"

Puja

WaspInWales wrote:

Coco wrote:My take on it is simply... I dont believe the numbers are complete or accurate... yet. Its all over the place depending how its looked at or who is reporting it. I do wonder why there arent bio-hazard recepicles placed in public places so we can properly dispose of used masks, etc. Are we supposed to burn them... reuse them... ?

So, you don't think 220,000+ Americans have died due to COVID-19?

Biohazard receptacles? Are you incapable of putting a used face mask into a bag and then binning it?

Does the US have bins placed in public places?

Shit...are things really that bad under Trump?

Perhaps vote the turd out.

Incidentally, the USA has had 300,000 more deaths so far this year than the first 10 months of any of the last 10 years which suggests that, as opposed to the conspiracy theory of "tHeyRe PuTtInG CoVId oN cAr CrASh DeATh CeRtiFiCatEs!!1!", there's actually a reasonably sized undercounting of deaths relating to COVID.

Puja

Coco wrote:

morepork wrote:"Why this is a thing"


I mean, for fucks sake.

I bet you wear a mask alone in your car...

Only if you have been in it. You are a walking cliche. I'm so tired of dealing with ignorant crackers. I'm tired of being compelled to teach them the fundamentals of viral pathogens in a public place of learning and the only joy I get is watching their stupid unmasked faces frown in frustration as they struggle with the metric system as a consensus form of scientific notation. You can plot the trajectory of their privileged lives by tracking social media, an idiotic platform they parrot with monotonous regularity at the expense of logic and reason. Fuck all y'all.

morepork wrote:

Coco wrote:

morepork wrote:"Why this is a thing"


I mean, for fucks sake.

I bet you wear a mask alone in your car...

Only if you have been in it. You are a walking cliche. I'm so tired of dealing with ignorant crackers. I'm tired of being compelled to teach them the fundamentals of viral pathogens in a public place of learning and the only joy I get is watching their stupid unmasked faces frown in frustration as they struggle with the metric system as a consensus form of scientific notation. You can plot the trajectory of their privileged lives by tracking social media, an idiotic platform they parrot with monotonous regularity at the expense of logic and reason. Fuck all y'all.

Ignorant crackers? Racist much? Thats really uncalledfor Porky... way below you too. Shameful.

J Dory wrote:

Coco wrote:

J Dory wrote:Would be interested to get your views on the White House's handling of the pandemic Coco. Not looking to beat you up on it, genuinely interested on your take.

My take on it is simply... I dont believe the numbers are complete or accurate... yet. Its all over the place depending how its looked at or who is reporting it. I do wonder why there arent bio-hazard recepicles placed in public places so we can properly dispose of used masks, etc. Are we supposed to burn them... reuse them... ?

Not sure I understand what you're saying there. I think it's "I don't have an opinion on the White House performance because the numbers (of deaths?) reported can't be trusted". Was hoping for something more ...... something more.

Sorry you werent titilated by my response.... not even sure I spelled it correctly. What should have been done differently? I mean doctors were losing their licenses for prescribing HCQ to try and reign some of it in. Tying the hands of medical professionals during a pandemic didnt help did it? That was not him.

HQC, Way to give tachycardia. Go for the disinformation trifecta and invoke lysol. You do know the federal government stockpiled HQC on a whim which affected its availability for lupus and other autoimmune conditions? Oh yeah, its ineffectual against covid:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2022926

Results

The enrollment of patients in the hydroxychloroquine group was closed on June 5, 2020, after an interim analysis determined that there was a lack of efficacy. Death within 28 days occurred in 421 patients (27.0%) in the hydroxychloroquine group and in 790 (25.0%) in the usual-care group (rate ratio, 1.09; 95% confidence interval [CI], 0.97 to 1.23; P=0.15). Consistent results were seen in all prespecified subgroups of patients. The results suggest that patients in the hydroxychloroquine group were less likely to be discharged from the hospital alive within 28 days than those in the usual-care group (59.6% vs. 62.9%; rate ratio, 0.90; 95% CI, 0.83 to 0.98). Among the patients who were not undergoing mechanical ventilation at baseline, those in the hydroxychloroquine group had a higher frequency of invasive mechanical ventilation or death (30.7% vs. 26.9%; risk ratio, 1.14; 95% CI, 1.03 to 1.27). There was a small numerical excess of cardiac deaths (0.4 percentage points) but no difference in the incidence of new major cardiac arrhythmia among the patients who received hydroxychloroquine.



Any "doctor" prescribing a non-FDA approved drug based upon the biased drivel issuing from the white house does not deserve a medical license. The documented risk of cardiac episodes place such prescription in the realm of wanton negligence.



Are you seriously this misinformed after 8 months of this shit?



Yeah. Ignorant crackers. Stick to "build the wall" and leave science and medicine to the unarmed enlightened. Just....fuck.

Digby wrote:I can't speak for the others but there doesn't seem to be anything interesting about Hunter's laptop, not that I'd expect there would be. And the chap crowd surfing is (was?) a supposed Democratic lawyer who's declared Biden corrupt and thrown in his lot with Trump, which might play well locally. And it's a thing because that's a Trump event where even for Trump events that's moronic behaviour

Re: Hunters laptop - along with emails about Joe/Ukraine dealings.. Joes brother and his dealings, apparently tons of underage porn... and pics of Hunter and his 14 yr old niece engaged in some interesting acts... lots of stuff.... guess we will have to see what comes of it... or not.

Re: The man crowdsurfing - His name is Vernon Jones. He is a democratic state representative for Georgia that recently threw his support behind Trump instead of Joe Biden/Kamala Harris. I guess some people are shocked that a black democrat supports an orange republican.

morepork wrote:HQC, Way to give tachycardia. Go for the disinformation trifecta and invoke lysol. You do know the federal government stockpiled HQC on a whim which affected its availability for lupus and other autoimmune conditions? Oh yeah, its ineffectual against covid:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2022926

Results

The enrollment of patients in the hydroxychloroquine group was closed on June 5, 2020, after an interim analysis determined that there was a lack of efficacy. Death within 28 days occurred in 421 patients (27.0%) in the hydroxychloroquine group and in 790 (25.0%) in the usual-care group (rate ratio, 1.09; 95% confidence interval [CI], 0.97 to 1.23; P=0.15). Consistent results were seen in all prespecified subgroups of patients. The results suggest that patients in the hydroxychloroquine group were less likely to be discharged from the hospital alive within 28 days than those in the usual-care group (59.6% vs. 62.9%; rate ratio, 0.90; 95% CI, 0.83 to 0.98). Among the patients who were not undergoing mechanical ventilation at baseline, those in the hydroxychloroquine group had a higher frequency of invasive mechanical ventilation or death (30.7% vs. 26.9%; risk ratio, 1.14; 95% CI, 1.03 to 1.27). There was a small numerical excess of cardiac deaths (0.4 percentage points) but no difference in the incidence of new major cardiac arrhythmia among the patients who received hydroxychloroquine.



Any "doctor" prescribing a non-FDA approved drug based upon the biased drivel issuing from the white house does not deserve a medical license. The documented risk of cardiac episodes place such prescription in the realm of wanton negligence.



Are you seriously this misinformed after 8 months of this shit?



Yeah. Ignorant crackers. Stick to "build the wall" and leave science and medicine to the unarmed enlightened. Just....fuck.

Oh the lysol again... my God... I bet you believe Trump said "there are great people on both sides" meaning white supremists too right?

He did say that. Verbatim. its on film.


Hunter's laptop. That is the focus is it? Global viral pandemic, mass unemployment, debt like a mother fucker, farmers on social welfare life support, and a nice (white) pre-civil rights act blanky thrown over society to sut them up. Broat's bitch Rudy Guiliani says its so , so that is that. Aparrently there is bad stuff on it that the blind Delaware computer shop owner found. The dog ate my homework.


People aren't shocked so much that a black democrat throws his lot in with Trump ("where's my African American"?) but more that an individual would breathe the air of 100 households in one rash act of public health ignorance. Ask Herman Cain how that can play out.



Your bullet points are made of rubber fired indiscriminately into a fog of tear gas.



This is pathetic.

I understand hating Biden, hating his stupid fucking kids, hating the way all these people are so unbelievably corrupt and many seem to have some sort of connection with various paedos.

But Trump is the living embodiment of corruption and a life of entitlement built on stepping on the necks of low-wage workers and those who weren’t lucky enough to be born in to wealth. He’s like a cartoon illustration of why ‘the American dream’ is absolute bullshit. You exploit people or you get exploited yourself, that’s it. That’s the choice.

Of course he also appears to have spent a fair bit of time kicking it with king paedo himself.

My take on "Hunter's laptop" is that Guiliani felt he'd found the gold mine, proof that Biden was "corrupt". Yet when the story broke, it turned out the entire thing hinged on an email sent by Hunter to his dad saying: Hey, you might want to meet this guy". With no response and no inkling that they ever actually met...

And when that fell flat and didn't get any news, Rudy has to find something else to spread, so comes up with the idea Biden is a pedo. I mean, that's the go to for people who are morally reprehensible and are accused of pedophilia when they are actually caught with their hands down their pants in a room with a woman pretending to be a 15 year old...

Coco wrote:Re: Hunters laptop - along with emails about Joe/Ukraine dealings.. Joes brother and his dealings, apparently tons of underage porn... and pics of Hunter and his 14 yr old niece engaged in some interesting acts... lots of stuff.... guess we will have to see what comes of it... or not.

So Giuliani has all of this absolutely dynamite evidence. Except no-one's allowed to see it. Despite the fact that conclusive proof would massively boost his candidate, no forensic experts are allowed to investigate this "evidence" of underage porn and nothing's been released, not even to his pet newspaper or to Wikileaks. Instead of actually showing anything and potentially winning the election, we just have to trust Rudi that it exists.

Uh-huh.

Puja

Just a reminder that Coco has stated in this very thread that she intends to vote for Trump, despite seeing the concentration camps first hand.

The O’Biden camps I think you meant to say.

Hunter Biden's laptop is a complete non-issue that, like Gretchen and "fetch," the Trump and chud media are desperate to make happen. It's not going to happen.

And Trump and his dwindling army of chuds shouldn't be so quick to play the family card. Like, fucking hell.

Coco wrote:

J Dory wrote:

Coco wrote:

My take on it is simply... I dont believe the numbers are complete or accurate... yet. Its all over the place depending how its looked at or who is reporting it. I do wonder why there arent bio-hazard recepicles placed in public places so we can properly dispose of used masks, etc. Are we supposed to burn them... reuse them... ?

Not sure I understand what you're saying there. I think it's "I don't have an opinion on the White House performance because the numbers (of deaths?) reported can't be trusted". Was hoping for something more ...... something more.

Sorry you werent titilated by my response.... not even sure I spelled it correctly. What should have been done differently? I mean doctors were losing their licenses for prescribing HCQ to try and reign some of it in. Tying the hands of medical professionals during a pandemic didnt help did it? That was not him.

Your previous answer was a non answer, a deflection. At least this time your answering the question .. kind of. So you think the white house has done ok, and the reason the USA tops the world in deaths per capita is because doctors weren't allowed to use HCQ, even though countries with a lower death rate (every other country in the entire world) have not been treating patients with HCQ.

You're the only Trump supporter I have communication with, as such I'm using you as a political barometer for the upcoming election. Sadly I fear if you can still support him, he has a chance.

It shouldn’t be entering anyone’s heads that Trump doesn’t “have a chance.”

It really wouldn’t surprise me if he’s gained as many as he’s lost over the last few months, what with all this civil war talk and the good honest folk “standing by” for Stephen Miller version 2.0 unleashing his ultra, mega racism strategy 2021. The second term is where you can really ramp things up.

I hope it won’t be, but I think it will be very tight.

I guess I was hopeful that the likes of Coco would have had enough. I don't understand how intelligent empathetic people (I consider Coco to be both of those things) can continue to back Trump.

cashead wrote:Hunter Biden's laptop is a complete non-issue that, like Gretchen and "fetch," the Trump and chud media are desperate to make happen. It's not going to happen.

And Trump and his dwindling army of chuds shouldn't be so quick to play the family card. Like, fucking hell.

Unfortunately, dodgy business practice, criminality and receipt are already priced in with Trump.

Coco wrote:

Digby wrote:I can't speak for the others but there doesn't seem to be anything interesting about Hunter's laptop, not that I'd expect there would be. And the chap crowd surfing is (was?) a supposed Democratic lawyer who's declared Biden corrupt and thrown in his lot with Trump, which might play well locally. And it's a thing because that's a Trump event where even for Trump events that's moronic behaviour

Re: Hunters laptop - along with emails about Joe/Ukraine dealings.. Joes brother and his dealings, apparently tons of underage porn... and pics of Hunter and his 14 yr old niece engaged in some interesting acts... lots of stuff.... guess we will have to see what comes of it... or not.

Re: The man crowdsurfing - His name is Vernon Jones. He is a democratic state representative for Georgia that recently threw his support behind Trump instead of Joe Biden/Kamala Harris. I guess some people are shocked that a black democrat supports an orange republican.

I shall concede you know far more about Hunter's search history, I'd be more interested if Hunter was running for anything. Simply whether Hunter is a deeply troubled individual doesn't mean much to me, if he was as disturbed as Don's kids and was as involved in public life as Don's kids it'd mean more. And the problem with Jones isn't he's thrown in his lot with Trump, he's perfectly entitled to back the GOP platform no matter how weird it is anyone would support Trump, it's very much the utter disregard for the safety of others and how events like that at a Trump rally do speak to many people, and probably bleeds into some people not even believing Covid is a risk, or not believing it's a significant risk which needs to be strongly acted on, doubting statements from health officials, taking weird stances on vaccines, and really backing gut instinct over knowledge.

It's a Qanon greatest hits. Fuck. Why is it always the pedo angle?

Congrats to Leslie Stahl for understanding how to play the moment after Trump went after a photo op over having her presented with a book on his accomplishments in HHS and the like

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsole ... lank-page/

Digby wrote:

Coco wrote:

Digby wrote:I can't speak for the others but there doesn't seem to be anything interesting about Hunter's laptop, not that I'd expect there would be. And the chap crowd surfing is (was?) a supposed Democratic lawyer who's declared Biden corrupt and thrown in his lot with Trump, which might play well locally. And it's a thing because that's a Trump event where even for Trump events that's moronic behaviour

Re: Hunters laptop - along with emails about Joe/Ukraine dealings.. Joes brother and his dealings, apparently tons of underage porn... and pics of Hunter and his 14 yr old niece engaged in some interesting acts... lots of stuff.... guess we will have to see what comes of it... or not.

Re: The man crowdsurfing - His name is Vernon Jones. He is a democratic state representative for Georgia that recently threw his support behind Trump instead of Joe Biden/Kamala Harris. I guess some people are shocked that a black democrat supports an orange republican.

I shall concede you know far more about Hunter's search history, I'd be more interested if Hunter was running for anything. Simply whether Hunter is a deeply troubled individual doesn't mean much to me, if he was as disturbed as Don's kids and was as involved in public life as Don's kids it'd mean more. And the problem with Jones isn't he's thrown in his lot with Trump, he's perfectly entitled to back the GOP platform no matter how weird it is anyone would support Trump, it's very much the utter disregard for the safety of others and how events like that at a Trump rally do speak to many people, and probably bleeds into some people not even believing Covid is a risk, or not believing it's a significant risk which needs to be strongly acted on, doubting statements from health officials, taking weird stances on vaccines, and really backing gut instinct over knowledge.

Whilst not helpful for Biden, unless he is implicated (with some actual evidence) then it has little bearing on his own ability to run for President. Trump is attempting to use the 'lock em up' argument again and whilst the charges could be levelled against Hillary in person, this time the link to Biden Senior is not clear.

morepork wrote:It's a Qanon greatest hits. Fuck. Why is it always the pedo angle?

Race to the bottom

Always if you position yourself on the not a paedo side of things then the other side are automatically.........

Standard stuff from football hooligans and anti LGBT protestors in Europe/Russia