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Re: Tim v France
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:37 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
Billyfish wrote:francoisfou wrote:Yep, it'll end one day - this evening!!!
I am getting butterflies. First time this tournament. Optimistic butterflies though. Looking forward to it. I think we'll win unless we get encouraged into a game of chuck about. Or France suddenly click (le clique).
No doubt they'll try to physically break us early on. If we can survive the first 20 minutes I think we'll be fine. I grew up in the 70s so I expect to beat everyone
. Faintly worried about Cuthbert being a weak link though. And with no decent wing cover on the bench....
Re: Tim v France
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:55 pm
by UKHamlet
We are too big, too strong and too seasoned to be anything other than convincing winners tonight. This team beat England ... At Twickenham ... In their World Cup. Then surely they can get more points than a French side in transition, at home, in the six nations, where we definitely have the Indian sign over them.
Despair will kick in about 4 this afternoon, I expect. Meanwhile, we're going to kill 'em.
Re: Tim v France
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:09 pm
by Numbers
Son of Mathonwy wrote:Tre wrote:Spiffy wrote:
You forgot to factor in wind speed and direction; the relative weight of each player's boots; the length of studs; what each had for breakfast and whether he had sex the night before.
All these factors, yet you'd still expect all international wingers to run it in from there.
I watched James's break again last night. We can't see exactly where Taylor is at the start, but he's definitely closer to the Scottish try line than James, by 5-10 meters. Judged by eye, it looks like they have a similar distance to run (but it could well be that Taylor had a meter or two in hand), and unfortunately for us Taylor's tackle was very effective (although not enough to push James into touch). L
amont was chasing James down the line, and he was moving at a similar pace to James, gaining ever so slightly, but probably not enough to stop James. So James is no faster than Lamont or Taylor over this distance.
But hey, James wasn't turned over (due to Faletau's excellent support run - very fast for a forward), it all led to Roberts's try, and that was probably an important one for us in that I think it will encourage Wales to employ this close-range, high speed, angled-run Roberts tactic more often.
This highlights it really, Lamont is not quick at all.
Re: Tim v France
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:10 pm
by Numbers
Son of Mathonwy wrote:Billyfish wrote:francoisfou wrote:Yep, it'll end one day - this evening!!!
I am getting butterflies. First time this tournament. Optimistic butterflies though. Looking forward to it. I think we'll win unless we get encouraged into a game of chuck about. Or France suddenly click (le clique).
No doubt they'll try to physically break us early on. If we can survive the first 20 minutes I think we'll be fine. I grew up in the 70s so I expect to beat everyone
. Faintly worried about Cuthbert being a weak link though.
And with no decent wing cover on the bench....
Liam Williams to the wing I expect.
Re: RE: Re: Tim v France
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:22 pm
by Tre
Numbers wrote:Son of Mathonwy wrote:Billyfish wrote:
I am getting butterflies. First time this tournament. Optimistic butterflies though. Looking forward to it. I think we'll win unless we get encouraged into a game of chuck about. Or France suddenly click (le clique).
No doubt they'll try to physically break us early on. If we can survive the first 20 minutes I think we'll be fine. I grew up in the 70s so I expect to beat everyone
. Faintly worried about Cuthbert being a weak link though.
And with no decent wing cover on the bench....
Liam Williams to the wing I expect.
Lloyd Williams mun
Re: Tim v France
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 5:41 pm
by kk67
Flying Scarlet wrote:we have the better 23 but for me its still the you never know which France will turn up
As always. We'll boss them in the end.
Re: Tim v France
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 6:57 pm
by wayneha50
i expect a turgid, tedious game with lots of awful kicking, no backs moves to speak of & jamie roberts repeatedly plowing headling into 4/5 French defenders & getting turned over - we should win though assuming French are as terrible as they have been so far; they may well surprise us though
Re: Tim v France
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:10 pm
by Spiffy
Numbers wrote:Son of Mathonwy wrote:Tre wrote:
All these factors, yet you'd still expect all international wingers to run it in from there.
I watched James's break again last night. We can't see exactly where Taylor is at the start, but he's definitely closer to the Scottish try line than James, by 5-10 meters. Judged by eye, it looks like they have a similar distance to run (but it could well be that Taylor had a meter or two in hand), and unfortunately for us Taylor's tackle was very effective (although not enough to push James into touch). L
amont was chasing James down the line, and he was moving at a similar pace to James, gaining ever so slightly, but probably not enough to stop James. So James is no faster than Lamont or Taylor over this distance.
But hey, James wasn't turned over (due to Faletau's excellent support run - very fast for a forward), it all led to Roberts's try, and that was probably an important one for us in that I think it will encourage Wales to employ this close-range, high speed, angled-run Roberts tactic more often.
This highlights it really,
Lamont is not quick at all.
A couple or so seasons ago, Jamie Roberts was put clean through the Scotland defence at Murrayfield and had a clear run to the try line with nobody to beat. Lamont gave him quite a head start but had no trouble running him down from behind in a relatively short distance. Maybe Lamont has slowed up since then, or Jamie speeded up ?
Re: RE: Re: Tim v France
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:17 pm
by kk67
Tre wrote:
Lloyd Williams mun
Who ?.
Re: Tim v France
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:08 pm
by Freks
Ooh, cheeky kick. A lively start so far, am looking forward to this one.
Re: Tim v France
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:44 pm
by Billyfish
Freks!!