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Banquo wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:06 pm
Gloskarlos wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:05 pm Well, we have Bon O'Keefe for this match. Angus Gardner takes control of the first semi.
Jackal away fellas, jackal away
That is actually a good ref for us. With a gameplan based around not having the ball and a back row who do like a jackal, having unmanaged chaos at the breakdowns could play to our advantage.

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Puja wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:23 pm
Banquo wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:06 pm
Gloskarlos wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:05 pm Well, we have Bon O'Keefe for this match. Angus Gardner takes control of the first semi.
Jackal away fellas, jackal away
That is actually a good ref for us. With a gameplan based around not having the ball and a back row who do like a jackal, having unmanaged chaos at the breakdowns could play to our advantage.

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didn't work so well for France. Who are pretty decent at the breakdown themselves :lol: :lol:
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Banquo wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:26 pm
Puja wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:23 pm
Banquo wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:06 pm

Jackal away fellas, jackal away
That is actually a good ref for us. With a gameplan based around not having the ball and a back row who do like a jackal, having unmanaged chaos at the breakdowns could play to our advantage.

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didn't work so well for France. Who are pretty decent at the breakdown themselves :lol: :lol:
France made the mistake of trying to play rugby as well, which is not a trap that we're going to fall into.

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Puja wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:27 pm
Banquo wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:26 pm
Puja wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:23 pm

That is actually a good ref for us. With a gameplan based around not having the ball and a back row who do like a jackal, having unmanaged chaos at the breakdowns could play to our advantage.

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didn't work so well for France. Who are pretty decent at the breakdown themselves :lol: :lol:
France made the mistake of trying to play rugby as well, which is not a trap that we're going to fall into.

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Has anybody told him about the 'hands on the ground first' thing that other refs are applying?
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Oakboy wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:32 pm
Puja wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:27 pm
Banquo wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:26 pm

didn't work so well for France. Who are pretty decent at the breakdown themselves :lol: :lol:
France made the mistake of trying to play rugby as well, which is not a trap that we're going to fall into.

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Has anybody told him about the 'hands on the ground first' thing that other refs are applying?
and premises such as side entry, the gate, off feet, no hands and other such rare nuances that happen in such areas....
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It was certainly a laissez-faire approach in the QF.

If he goes the same way at least players will know what they can expect.

Cue rash of pens in opening 10 minutes for all sorts of b/d offences.
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Puja wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:27 pm
Banquo wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:26 pm
Puja wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:23 pm

That is actually a good ref for us. With a gameplan based around not having the ball and a back row who do like a jackal, having unmanaged chaos at the breakdowns could play to our advantage.

Puja
didn't work so well for France. Who are pretty decent at the breakdown themselves :lol: :lol:
France made the mistake of trying to play rugby as well, which is not a trap that we're going to fall into.

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Personally I think chaos at the breakdown isn't so great for us tbh.
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Banquo wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 3:14 pm
Puja wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:27 pm
Banquo wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:26 pm

didn't work so well for France. Who are pretty decent at the breakdown themselves :lol: :lol:
France made the mistake of trying to play rugby as well, which is not a trap that we're going to fall into.

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Personally I think chaos at the breakdown isn't so great for us tbh.
I would have to agree. Chaos at the breakdown always helps the 'physical' dirty Boks.
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Banquo wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 3:14 pm
Puja wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:27 pm
Banquo wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:26 pm

didn't work so well for France. Who are pretty decent at the breakdown themselves :lol: :lol:
France made the mistake of trying to play rugby as well, which is not a trap that we're going to fall into.

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Personally I think chaos at the breakdown isn't so great for us tbh.
I mean, let's be fair, I think we're screwed every which way. There's no aspect in which we equal or surpass them, so there's no real angle that we can point to and say, "That'd swing the game". Our best hope is an early red card for Etzebeth, us playing at our best, them playing crap, and us getting a few lucky bounces of the ball and fortunate refereeing decisions.

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Puja wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 3:44 pm
Banquo wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 3:14 pm
Puja wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:27 pm

France made the mistake of trying to play rugby as well, which is not a trap that we're going to fall into.

Puja
Personally I think chaos at the breakdown isn't so great for us tbh.
I mean, let's be fair, I think we're screwed every which way. There's no aspect in which we equal or surpass them, so there's no real angle that we can point to and say, "That'd swing the game". Our best hope is an early red card for Etzebeth, us playing at our best, them playing crap, and us getting a few lucky bounces of the ball and fortunate refereeing decisions.

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I don’t even know if a red card would really be hat helpful. I genuinely think they could still beat us pretty comfortably with 14.

I’m not being defeatist - I just think there is a very big gap between the two sides.
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Scrumhead wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 4:13 pm I don’t even know if a red card would really be hat helpful. I genuinely think they could still beat us pretty comfortably with 14.

I’m a being realist - I just think there is a very big gap between the two sides.
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Banquo wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 11:46 am
Mr Mwenda wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 11:40 am
Banquo wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 11:20 am

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Scrumhead wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 4:13 pm I don’t even know if a red card would really be hat helpful. I genuinely think they could still beat us pretty comfortably with 14.

I’m not being defeatist - I just think there is a very big gap between the two sides.
5:3 split. Would that help us?
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I suppose you could argue that pumping Smith full of versatility enables SB to go for a 6:2 split - Smith plus a SH. That pre-supposes that the backs are mainly (only) on the bench for injury cover.
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If you could get away with a 8:7 split there could be a chance for you
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To hell with this negatively. Looking ahead do you see us targeting the AB’s line out and exploiting Beauden’s want to run the ball back?
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p/d wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:48 pm To hell with this negatively. Looking ahead do you see us targeting the AB’s line out and exploiting Beauden’s want to run the ball back?
I see 3 further drop goals again breaking the hearts of the malbec loving South American's. Pfft to old shoehorn Beaudie and his bros.
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Banquo wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 10:16 pm
p/d wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:48 pm To hell with this negatively. Looking ahead do you see us targeting the AB’s line out and exploiting Beauden’s want to run the ball back?
I see 3 further drop goals again breaking the hearts of the malbec loving South American's. Pfft to old shoehorn Beaudie and his bros.
Oops. Yes, that was presumptuous of me to assume it would Bea, Jord and the one no one remembers facing us.
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p/d wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:48 pm To hell with this negatively. Looking ahead do you see us targeting the AB’s line out and exploiting Beauden’s want to run the ball back?
Fucker kicks it like a step ford wife more often than not these days.
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p/d wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 10:22 pm
Banquo wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 10:16 pm
p/d wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:48 pm To hell with this negatively. Looking ahead do you see us targeting the AB’s line out and exploiting Beauden’s want to run the ball back?
I see 3 further drop goals again breaking the hearts of the malbec loving South American's. Pfft to old shoehorn Beaudie and his bros.
Oops. Yes, that was presumptuous of me to assume it would Bea, Jord and the one no one remembers facing us.
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Lizard wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:29 pm If you could get away with a 8:7 split there could be a chance for you
Replacing the average starting side with another average side at half time isn't likely to help us beat the Boks.
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Puja wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:23 pm
Banquo wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:06 pm
Gloskarlos wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:05 pm Well, we have Bon O'Keefe for this match. Angus Gardner takes control of the first semi.
Jackal away fellas, jackal away
That is actually a good ref for us. With a gameplan based around not having the ball and a back row who do like a jackal, having unmanaged chaos at the breakdowns could play to our advantage.

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Following the referee review post the QF I expect him to be a lot hotter on the breakdown.
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FKAS wrote: Wed Oct 18, 2023 9:19 am
Lizard wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:29 pm If you could get away with a 8:7 split there could be a chance for you
Replacing the average starting side with another average side at half time isn't likely to help us beat the Boks.
As Joel has pointed out we are the weakest team in the Semi's. Do the basics well but do not dominate in any area. Boks to win comfortably.

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