RugbyRebels

TheDasher wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 7:42 pm

Mellsblue wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:36 pm Baxter
LCD
Cole
Coles
Martin
Hill
B Cuzza
CCS
JVP
F Smith
Sleightholme
Dingwall
Lawrence
Freeman
Carpenter

Dan
Genge
Heyes
Tizard
Pollock
Porter
M Smith
Roebuck

I've lost the plot on the rules - can he call up anyone from the England A squad?

FKAS wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:09 pm

Banquo wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 4:59 pm

FKAS wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 4:56 pm

I dunno, Murley went on record as saying that Borthwick told him he was doing the right things but was only getting so many touches a game and Borthwick wanted him to get more touches and carry more. I'd imagine it was similar for Ribbans. Unless Ribbans goes on record hard to know. Murley did go and record and seemed to like the feedback.

Think its true what SB said to Ribbans, I'm saying it was a very odd bit of feedback.

You make x number of dominant tackles and y number of metres post contact on average which is good but I need you to up those numbers. Not really surprising thing to say to a physical player you want to kick on. Saints having a porous defence at that stage as well probably didn't help.

Epaminondas Pules wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 10:11 pm The irony of Staggeringly Bad telling a lock they weren’t physical enough!

Banquo wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 9:51 pm

FKAS wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:09 pm

Banquo wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 4:59 pm

Think its true what SB said to Ribbans, I'm saying it was a very odd bit of feedback.

You make x number of dominant tackles and y number of metres post contact on average which is good but I need you to up those numbers. Not really surprising thing to say to a physical player you want to kick on. Saints having a porous defence at that stage as well probably didn't help.

We are guessing, but the anecdotal report I got was not presented like that at all. It wasn't quantitative.

FKAS wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:23 am

Banquo wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 9:51 pm

FKAS wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:09 pm

You make x number of dominant tackles and y number of metres post contact on average which is good but I need you to up those numbers. Not really surprising thing to say to a physical player you want to kick on. Saints having a porous defence at that stage as well probably didn't help.

We are guessing, but the anecdotal report I got was not presented like that at all. It wasn't quantitative.

Doesn't sound like Stats Backer but anecdotes do tend to be painted to suit the teller.

Epaminondas Pules wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 10:11 pm The irony of Staggeringly Bad telling a lock they weren’t physical enough!

Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:21 am

Epaminondas Pules wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 10:11 pm The irony of Staggeringly Bad telling a lock they weren’t physical enough!

So now we want him to embody all of his own shortcomings as a player because… irony?

Mellsblue wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:05 am If he brings back the post match bleeding nose it’ll buy him a couple of more matches, imo.

jngf wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:25 am Borthwick would make a first class cabinet

Banquo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:28 am

jngf wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:25 am Borthwick would make a first class cabinet

fixed that

twitchy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:30 pm Murley called up.

fivepointer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:48 pm Yep, just Murley from the A team squad. IFW not included.

Stom wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:19 pm Murley should be in the XXIII.

Banquo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:20 pm

Stom wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:19 pm Murley should be in the XXIII.

for Roebuck?

Danno wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:33 pmNah Freeman

p/d wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 5:48 pm Really rate Roebuck, so hope to see him start.
Don’t know too much about Murley apart from he sports a comedy ‘tache

Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:07 pm

p/d wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 5:48 pm Really rate Roebuck, so hope to see him start.
Don’t know too much about Murley apart from he sports a comedy ‘tache

Iike the look of Roebuck too. Gets over the line a bit and is great in the air. He’s a big lad but I don’t know how well/frequently he uses it? Seems to have a decent step.

Would compare him more to Freeman in style, whereas Murley is more like IFW. Scores a lot of tries and is generally just far more physical and abrasive than defenders seem to expect, with a great work rate and awareness of space/support.

That’s very much the role I thought Murley could take for England a couple of seasons back, then he got a bunch of injuries and IFW came from nowhere.